> AMD claims the new AMD Ryzen 7040 series will offer 30+ hours of video playback in ultrathin notebooks
So those 30 hours from the title are just for video playback, with no mention of the battery size and screen resolution and brightness of the laptop from this benchmark.
Still, as a owner of a Ryzen 5000 laptop, I'm really looking forward to an upgrade. Bring it on!
It is unfortunate no one seems to be talking about the most interesting part of the SoC.
4nm ( Or N4 if you want to be specific ) design, this is new for both CPU and GPU.
And XDNA from Xilinx.
And AFAIK this is the first time AMD put out their latest CPU and GPU uArch in the same chip. On the absolute leading edge node. Just cant wait for benchmarks. It has been a while anything exciting has happened in the x86 world.
I guess this headline is easier to get the upvote. But in 99.99999% of cases macrumors should not be used as source for hardware specific information.
The thing that irks me on these "xx% faster" articles is that they always achieve this by adding more cores. Nice, very impressive. Now, let me see those single core benchmarks.
Laptops use lpddr, which uses much less power than a desktop dimm. That said they’re also saying in standby which represents and massive power reduction as clocks are dropped to minimum and the OS can shutdown unused banks.
So available battery/desktop dimm power usage is not the right maths to be using here.
I’m not saying they aren’t exaggerating or anything, but in general marketing information is always technically correct, even if you would not get that perf in real life so outright falsehood should indicate your base assumptions can be wrong
You can get a million hours of playback with enough battery. Thin and light laptops with typical sub-50w/hr batteries are going to have a very hard time going over 20-25 hours.
I'm also super-skeptical of AMD's claim because their chipsets have a very long history of sucking a lot of power.
He's talking about the chipset/motherboard/battery management logic/etc, which isn't in the CPU. Even then, you need the OS to properly utilize the logic, and Linux so often has worse power management than windows for laptops.
This really is a case where the CPU vendor (AMD) needs to get involved with the hardware partners to get good drivers made FOR LINUX to showcase their hardware, and not just windows.
The real reason devs love having Apple laptops isn't OSX. It isn't Apple the brand. It is somewhat the quality of hardware... but the real reason is that it is IT-supported Linux.
Looking ahead to the seemingly inevitable, AMD and Intel when pushing ARM (or RISC-V?) CPUs, will need to formally adopt good linux support for the hardware.
An instruction set changeover cannot succeed through non-technical consumers in Windows. It won't in games. The only beachhead for AMD/Intel in non-x86 will be a good Linux laptop. Otherwise Apple will have the advantage.
It seems pretty reasonable considering my 4-year old laptop with a "power hungry" 4K screen uses 4 watts in very light usage. For a start, they are probably using LPDDR5, just like phones.
Even if the claims are valid it is still Windows/Linux only and ignores the cost of getting M1 customers to leave macOS which is like trying to get a linux user to switch to Windows .... not bloody likely. Maybe they are trying to get a design win at Apple against Apple's own silicon also not bloody likely.
If Framework decided to put these new chips in their laptops (and assuming these claims are true), that might entice a number of Mac users. I've been a bit surprised at the number of Mac users around here saying they were excited to purchase a Framework Laptop.
If Framework ended up making a main board with this I’d probably finally pull the trigger on one. It’s been in my cart for a while but I never really could justify buying one.
12th gen has had issues on all machines. Linux has added a lot of improvements and things generally work fine now, but it's not as out-of-the-box as 11th.
I think you underestimate the number of developer type people who buy Apple laptops because of the great hardware (M1, screen, battery life, touchpad etc) and are comfortable with MacOS, but they are not Mac developers and would also be comfortable using Linux or Windows if every part of the laptop works well with it.
Especially Linux, because they already use Linux on their servers and CI/CD, and some dev tools like Docker or anything filesystem-heavy run faster on Linux than MacOS even on the same hardware.
I think you’re misunderstanding the comment. This headline was explicitly comparing to M1s, and the commenter is saying that many people with M1s aren’t using it solely for performance reasons, they’re using it for macOS. In that case it doesn’t matter the perf AMD gets as they’re still not running macOS.
I got a Ryzen Lenovo Slim something (can't remember the exact model name/number) and it's amazing.
I don't find laptops beautifull, on the contrary.
So those 30 hours from the title are just for video playback, with no mention of the battery size and screen resolution and brightness of the laptop from this benchmark.
Still, as a owner of a Ryzen 5000 laptop, I'm really looking forward to an upgrade. Bring it on!
AMD and Apple are basically in the ~same TSMC silicon boat.
https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/01/how-to-enable-hardware...
Still doesn't support DRM for Netflix tho (so you're stuck with a low bitrate netflix)
4nm ( Or N4 if you want to be specific ) design, this is new for both CPU and GPU.
And XDNA from Xilinx.
And AFAIK this is the first time AMD put out their latest CPU and GPU uArch in the same chip. On the absolute leading edge node. Just cant wait for benchmarks. It has been a while anything exciting has happened in the x86 world.
I guess this headline is easier to get the upvote. But in 99.99999% of cases macrumors should not be used as source for hardware specific information.
It's the exact same amount of cores as last gen. The improvements mostly come from the switch to 4nm and Zern4 arch.
So available battery/desktop dimm power usage is not the right maths to be using here.
I’m not saying they aren’t exaggerating or anything, but in general marketing information is always technically correct, even if you would not get that perf in real life so outright falsehood should indicate your base assumptions can be wrong
I'm also super-skeptical of AMD's claim because their chipsets have a very long history of sucking a lot of power.
This really is a case where the CPU vendor (AMD) needs to get involved with the hardware partners to get good drivers made FOR LINUX to showcase their hardware, and not just windows.
The real reason devs love having Apple laptops isn't OSX. It isn't Apple the brand. It is somewhat the quality of hardware... but the real reason is that it is IT-supported Linux.
Looking ahead to the seemingly inevitable, AMD and Intel when pushing ARM (or RISC-V?) CPUs, will need to formally adopt good linux support for the hardware.
An instruction set changeover cannot succeed through non-technical consumers in Windows. It won't in games. The only beachhead for AMD/Intel in non-x86 will be a good Linux laptop. Otherwise Apple will have the advantage.
That is why the OP specify 99Whr, it is the maximum battery size in laptop limited by Airline regulations.
Take a look at https://frame.work/linux
This is probably as close to officially supporting linux as I can think of. I do agree that shipping with linux would be a good addition.
Especially Linux, because they already use Linux on their servers and CI/CD, and some dev tools like Docker or anything filesystem-heavy run faster on Linux than MacOS even on the same hardware.