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saubeidl
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- The US literally wrote a national security strategy describing that it wants to dismantle the EU.
What do you mean it's not anti-Europe? It's literally trying to destroy our shared institutions!
- Is the castle made in the US? Why cut it off at precisely that point?
Where was binary logic invented? Where was boolean algebra invented? Where was the turing machine invented?
Hell, we can go back even further. Where would any of this be without Aristotle?
Of course, this castle has been built by many many stones. But I think it's fair to say most stones came from Europe.
- Yes, I agree.
I'm not saying you shouldn't realize it before 10M, I'm saying you should probably stop hoarding resources after 10M at most.
I can see how my phrasing was a bit ambiguous there.
- With single family homes in some part of the world costing two by themselves, I think we can give it a little bit more leeway, especially if you're planning to retire and support your kids through college.
But the point stands.
- I think if you cared even a little bit about other people, you'd realize that after say, ten million, your life is gonna be pretty damn sweet already and you'd try to help other people with your money instead of buying yachts.
To become a billionaire requires sociopathic disregard for the suffering of others and a pathological need for more.
There's no such thing as a good billionaire.
- Remember how the collapse of the soviet union created the oligarch class of incredibly rich untouchables?
American billionaires sure do.
- It's an occupying force there the same way the US is in Puerto Rico and Hawaii.
- The German social safety net was introduced by Bismarck, a conservative.
You know why he did it? Credible threat of violent revolution.
That's what it takes.
- > Every country wants to be in that position.
I agree. But not many are one of the largest economies in the world and the world's most prolific regulator.
> America should be helping you with them instead of posturing and pretending to be friends with our enemies.
I also agree, but unfortunately the American electorate and its elites have proven deeply untrustworthy. I wish it wasn't so, but that's what happened.
With that in mind, the best outcome for us is to hope for American power to decrease relative to China to increase our own leverage.
- I think unless we acknowledge the class war, there is no way of winning it.
Big Capital is not my friend and its not most peoples friend, even if some of us here were lucky enough to be useful to them for now.
- Not everyone here is American.
From a European standpoint: The ideal outcome is a stalemate between China and the US, with us as the kingmaker.
We could basically do the same thing as Yugoslavia did during the Cold War and play both sides against one another, extracting concessions from both.
- All of this is true, but all of the examples that came before were deterministic, so once you understood the abstraction, you still understood the whole thing.
AI is different.
- Maybe you become worse at solving business problems with technology once you let that muscle atrophy?
- 5 points
- The scenario I'm imagining is in fact the US further destabilizing NATO, in which case Europe wouldn't feel bound by any of the agreements we've made with Americans. Failing that, I don't think any of what was said above is relevant.
- Well, it sounds like an alternative supplier for EUV light sources just became available...
- If Uncle Sam pisses off Europa Regina enough, she won't give a damn about licenses.
- What if my high level political and military leadership are the threat scenario?
Remember Snowden.
To say they're not anti-Europe is either hopelessly naive or cynically ideologically aligned with their goals.