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Not everyone here is American.

From a European standpoint: The ideal outcome is a stalemate between China and the US, with us as the kingmaker.

We could basically do the same thing as Yugoslavia did during the Cold War and play both sides against one another, extracting concessions from both.


Every country wants to be in that position.

Y'all've got a lot of headwinds, and America should be helping you with them instead of posturing and pretending to be friends with our enemies.

America needs to get closer to Europe and India, democratic East Asia, Mexico, Vietnam ... not this bullshit we're doing right now.

> Every country wants to be in that position.

I agree. But not many are one of the largest economies in the world and the world's most prolific regulator.

> America should be helping you with them instead of posturing and pretending to be friends with our enemies.

I also agree, but unfortunately the American electorate and its elites have proven deeply untrustworthy. I wish it wasn't so, but that's what happened.

With that in mind, the best outcome for us is to hope for American power to decrease relative to China to increase our own leverage.

That only works in a world where Europe can replace all of the US forces in NATO. I'd like to see that, but it's gonna take a long while and a big commitment, so I'm sceptical.

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