- johnnyanmacAlright, I can't wait to hear how we're 6 months away from good AI generated art in another 2 years. Then another 2 years after that.
- Do you need to be informed to know what kind of things in a game you personally like? This isn't some comprehensive survey to determine "what is AI?" The questions are literally framed as "what's your attiude". AKA "how do you feel?".
Given how little time a modern game has to advertise itself (without millions in an ad campaign), those gut feelings are key to landing a sale.
- AAA is never going back to 10 people in a garage making Sim City. Nor funding a team that does this. The market, tech, and expectations of a game are too drastic for that to be the norm ever again.
As for the indie scene, AI isn't going to solve the problems on why they don't sell well. It's not assets nor tech that holds the scene back at the moment.
- >where GAI art is extremely difficult to distinguish from human art and at a fraction of that cost.
And this logic is why people don't understand how to make good game art. generating an 2d animation or real time 3d model that properly deforms is multiple magnitudes different from fooling some tiktok users with a static image in isolation. even composing a still scene will quickly reveal the lmitations of generating art for your visual novel.
Wielding a camera doesn't make you a cinematographer that can sell a movie. Generating a few realistic-ish images does not make you an artist that can sell a game.
- He didn't say "best humans". he said "humans".
And yes, I think with the current trajectory, we're not even hitting "crappy entrprise government portal" levels within the next few decades.
- The thing is that only came about when companies realized that the thing they really wanted (to cut labor and costs of production) was counter to how you really make "good CGI". Bad CGI is still bad and good CGI makes some of the most expensive films to date.
Meanwhile, AI markets itself almost exclusively on being a time and money saver. And more efficient workers, but industry actively opposes that in a day and age where they prefer to commoditize labor instead of invest in specialists. If it doesn't actually do neither, then it won't really serve a niche compared to CGI.
- I've been hearing "but it will get better" for a lot of things in the industry for decades now. It's a bit hollow to be future thinking when the present is collapsing around us for several reasons in and outside the games industry.
- >Gen AI is good for replacing not what humans would normally do, but what algorithms would normally handle but aren't great at.
sadly, the 9000 layoffs in NA this year seems to show what they really want to do with AI.
- Pretty sure whoever provides a fire and forget auto-UV unwrapper will have a statue erected in their image.
- >no one will notice the AI-generated textures in good games that have actual standards for art.
I don't know. Clair Obscur is about as good as it gets and gamers notice. or at least, other devs who are also gamers notice it.
The community was always a much more "hyperactive" scene, and it doesn't seem like AI is an exception. Thing that may blow over in other industries will be eviscerated here, especially in a time where there's more cynicism than ever among the gaming community and the AAA industry.
- Replace China with Trump you have the talking points of 2024. Still took a year of rampant incompetence and corruption to convince Gen Z otherwise.
China's soft rule will not be as incompetent.
- Yes. Because the US forgot what soft power and actual nationalism entails. China didn't.
Its not out of goodwill, but the objective of "don't be ad ridden slop maximizing shareholder gain" was a bar you didn't even need to step over
- >The deal itself feels messy and political, not like a serious solution to data or security concerns.
2026 in a nutshell, yes. The Daily Watergate of American history.
- >TikTok is psychological, emotional and social crack for young malleable minds
The US did a good job of taking those away, so it's hard to complain when others come in to fill that void.
- >these casual references are unlikely to drop from public discourse anytime soon.
I'd hope to hold this community to a higher standard than "the public discourse".
- >it is not just a dopamine machine, unlike TikTok. Can you find research seminars on TikTok?
Sure, you can find white paper previews on Tiktok.
- >You're engaging in superficiality to the point that all distinction is made meaningless
Yes, that's the point.
>That's a totally different argument
Not really. It's the Millenial equivalent the satanic rock scare. Politicians will always use these kinds of tricks to influence opinion and even enact laws.
I want more than sound bites if we're going to compare addiction to something as well studied as hard drugs.
- >If you want proof, watch someone’s feed with them. Invariably they will start to apologize.
Is that unique to any one social media? Our internet browsing is pretty intimate. I dont even want my family seeing my moment to moment feed.
- Yes, this was a good 30 years in the making, so anyone still in a career will feel it. Even some younger boomers would feel the after effects of tbis, especially those who didn't get to own a house.
Gen Z is simply unique as the "full immersion" generation. It's uniquely hard to ignore the youth unemployment for kids who are spending more than ever to be educated, or being hard locked out of minimum wage jobs our parents would scare us with because they lack a bachelor's degree.
- >it is just plain bad for all Americans for China to advance its geopolitical ambitions.
In Gen Z's eyes, America is bad for Americans. That's what happens when you build a low trust society. America spent decades trying to build up a strong rapport among citizens and they tore it down and sold them out in a single generation.
Maybe china will be worse. But the appeals to nationalism simply will not work among our youth. We abandoned them, they will see the village burned to feel its warmth. Already happened in 2024.