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> There's nothing stopping ICE from raiding where you live and destroying your shit.

This isn't specific to ICE, and sovereign immunity especially around law enforcement is a topic that has been contested for a while. Every now and then there's a story that pops up of some innocent's house being destroyed due to a clerical error leading the local SWAT team to look for drugs at the wrong address.


> This isn't specific to ICE

It absolutely is specific to ICE when they get to do it to 125 apartment units at once by taking everybody in an entire building, regardless of immigration status, and detaining them for hours, then leaving them with smashed doors and broken possessions.

But, oh, it's "been contested for a while", so let's definitely downplay it.

The power to detain a bunch of people for hours when it's not clear if any of them have committed a crime is a power the cops already have, and use from time to time. And ordinary city cops, not just ICE specifically.
Right but the difference is in both scale and rationale. Do you believe it would be acceptable for your door to be broken down and all of your stuff confiscated because you happened to live in the same building as an illegal immigrant? Because that is the literal event we're talking about here.
Of course that's not acceptable, but my point is that it's the same level of unacceptable that has occurred countless times by all levels of law enforcement entities, be it local or federal. It's just as unacceptable as if your door was broken down and your stuff confiscated because you happened to live in the same building as a drug dealer.

I'm just pushing back on the whole "fascism", "end of the republic" narrative on the grounds that the problem is not specific to this particular administration.

> narrative on the grounds that the problem is not specific to this particular administration.

Can you tell me how much budget ICE had prior to this administration, and how often prior admins conducted very specific raids into cities that they deemed to be against their interest? Because I think this line of argumentation is incredibly stupid; it may have held true during the prior Trump admin where he was mostly continuing a neoliberal agenda but this is a clear escalation on multiple levels.

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