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The law sounds stupid to me. Abuse-prone with AI and encourages abuse of ICEs. I don't idle for fun, I do it to reduce wear and tear. People follow this stupid 'don't idle' mantra in an attempt to save 30ml petrol and wonder why their engine burns oil like a 2-stroke at 100k...

I'm also sure normies will recognise when a commercial vehicle is idling to maintain cargo cooling, to maintain hydraulics, etc...


Kbelicius
This is becoming a cliche here on HN, to call laws and lawmakers stupid after reading a headline.

> I don't idle for fun, I do it to reduce wear and tear.

And this law isn't there for fun either.

> I'm also sure normies will recognise when a commercial vehicle is idling to maintain cargo cooling, to maintain hydraulics, etc...

Everybody is stupid but me!!!!! How tireing. Idling is allowed for running a piece of equipment.

lan321 OP
> Everybody is stupid but me!!!!! How tireing. Idling is allowed for running a piece of equipment.

No. More so, along the lines of, random people should not be given financial incentives to regulate things they don't understand, especially not without a long checklist. A 2,01m video covers only the most basic thing.

> And this law isn't there for fun either.

Yeah, it's driven by the hippies who made OEMs write in manuals that you should immediately go after starting your car or bike. Scrape the cylinders real good while they're bone dry..

Kbelicius
> random people should not be given financial incentives to regulate things they don't understand

They aren't regulating...

lan321 OP
Yes they are. The summons part is essentially what happens when a cop issues you a ticket..

> What happens after I submit my complaint?

> Where DEP issues the summons, you will be informed of the summons number and hearing date. You may need to be available in person or by phone to testify. If the summons is upheld, the respondent must pay the penalty in order for you to receive payment for your complaint, You should submit your request for payment to OATH. If the summons is dismissed, you are not entitled to any payment.

So any random can waste your time severely at no cost to themselves, and you have to prove you were idling legally unless it's a refrigeration truck:

> If you submit a complaint regarding a refrigeration truck, you must document that the engine that moves the vehicle was on and was not being used to run the refrigeration unit.

Where I severely doubt they know which license plates belong to refrigeration trucks to begin with, so you'll likely still have to waste time.

It leads to a hearing date with you on the hook for up to 18000$ the first time and them risking nothing after investing 5 minutes to get in that joyful situation.

The more I read about it, the more it seems like a great scam, though. Film trucks, make them appear to be running for a couple of tokens and drown your competition in fines. Once a day on some trial will likely be enough even.

Kbelicius
> Yes they are. The summons part is essentially what happens when a cop issues you a ticket..

They are reporting, not regulating. You don't get a ticket from a random person.

> The more I read about it, the more it seems like a great scam, though. Film trucks, make them appear to be running for a couple of tokens and drown your competition in fines. Once a day on some trial will likely be enough even.

This rule is in place for a long time. It isn't a scam nor is what you dreamt up happening.

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