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I don't know how I feel about this. The nature of PTSD is that you have a true memory, that the event happened. Imagine if I tell you, 9/11 was real and it happened, but from now you will never feel any feeling about it. What exactly did we accomplish here? The bombings in Gaza are real, but from now on, you will feel nothing about it. You see? It reads like a dystopia.

There's an obsession with erasing the past and not digesting it. The subconscious wants reconciliation, and it will emerge over and over, that's what PTSD is. Lobotomizing someone is certainly one way of reconciling it. The only way out is through imho, that you are forever changed and saw the face of mankind, and your subconscious will not accept any cheap reconciliation for the most part.

"Just zap it", I sense the subconscious will not let you get away with that. You are custodian of the trauma.


Stabilization is a crucial pillar in order to face the traumatic memories and process them. You cannot face the memories without it; any attempt to do it without stabilization training would be ill-advised; actually, PTSD as diagnosis is "proof" that it's too overwhelming for the patient. The goal is not to "zap" memories but to relax the nervous system and to anchor patients sufficiently in a "safe present" so one can then use techniques such as EMDR/hyponosis etc to unpack the trauma, step by step, without getting flooded and potentially retraumatized.

Even the sensationalist headline talks "merely" about "erasing" PTSD: the stress disorder -- NOT the memories.

Until full processing and integration (which can take years, decades!), traumatic memories are LIVE and unprocessed memories; they are re-experienced as if it was happening NOW; again and again (see e.g.: fMRI studies show that they activate brain regions responsible to process the present, in stark contrast to normal memory recall). This is not comparable to "being reminded about a past event and having strong feelings about it". That is the goal. Not erasure as if nothing ever happened.

you're conflating "not having an overwhelming negative reaction to it" with "never feel anything about it"

you can know something is bad and act accordingly without having a disordered and painful relationship with it

But you are supposed to have a painful relationship with it. You are never ever supposed to be at peace with it. It's who you become as the holder of that pain that provides any foundation. In a sense, "zapping it" limits your potential. A surrogate mother robs the mother of child-bearing (in all normal cases like Kim Kardashian, not for cases where the original mother cannot physically give birth). That's just a fact. The trauma event has already robbed them, why rob them twice?

Most people will have no capacity to feel what you feel about it. You have the gift of feeling what is necessary to feel about that event. It's precious, and it needs to be nurtured. My utter contempt and sorrow for what I feel about certain things belongs in the world, as best as I can hold and steer it.

No one can feel your pain, and if you zap it, then not even you can feel it. It's unloving to yourself and your experience.

Try telling all this to someone who is effectively emotionally/physically disabled because their mind and body either enter a rollercoaster or just shutdown in response to anything vaguely reminiscent of something they experienced.

I think these treatments are better understood as methods to encourage one's mind and body to reprocess some experience so that it is "merely" a terrible thing that happened so they can live a stabler, more balanced, more normal life.

The tribe that you speak of is much much bigger than those who have an official diagnosis of PTSD via psychology. For example, addicts all have PTSD that is commonly related to past childhood/family abuse dynamics. They take drugs over it. So, as a matter of fact, that is exactly what is told to them. You can in fact hold your pain, and I believe it is righteous to do so.

It kind of reminds me of Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind. You cannot just erase something. Drugs effectively erase the bad feelings, but they don't last. Okay, so such a treatment being discussed is, I suppose, an everlasting solution. Why would I be against this? Because you cease being you in your entirety (which includes your trauma).

It's not an easy sell by any measure, especially for those who just go "well fuck that, I can erase this with some cocaine right now". Erasing it is a solution, for sure, but it's not a free solution. Something is lost in the process (you). Understanding that, stay with me here, that it's beautiful is part of it, that you have a beautiful part of you forever. It's completely didactic, you have to teach the person that they went through something and are PRETTIER in their surviving of it. Then it stops being traumatic.

If we zap them, we take away the pretty. If I zap you, and then say lets talk about it, and you say "well I don't feel any which way about it anymore", then it's lost. It's gone. So something is lost in the process. So yeah, this is exactly what is told to the most beaten down people in life.

I wouldn't zap the mustard seed.

> you cease being you in your entirety

You cease being you every second of every day.

You can't deal with how bad something feels if you have uncontrollable crippling sensations about it. Trauma does not let you mature, learn from experience or grow up. You can't walk it off. If you try to "man up", it comes back even stronger in terms of attention deficit, bouts of anger and OCB. It is very hard to convince people that the sensations trauma causes are real. Especially to people with a hero complex.
Having seen complex treatment-resistant PTSD taken through difficult work to peaceful resolution:

It’s like having something in your mouth. It doesn’t go away. PTSD therapy is not about zapping the object to make it vanish. It’s about gaining the possibility to chew and swallow it.

> from now you will never feel any feeling about it

You're tilting at windmills, mon frere, by exaggerating egregiously.

> You are custodian of the trauma.

True, and beautiful, but debilitating trauma that destroys its vessel is not delivered to the future that would learn from it.

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