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The solution is painfully obvious for anyone who isn't actually involved in milking every last red cent out of media: make movies people actually want to see, and not just shameless cash grabs recycling everything from 1980 onward. Of course, now every suit expects every movie to gross a billion dollars, so that's not going to happen. It's a fun dream, though.

If only they recycled the best of the 1980s, it would be fine. Not great but fine. A large (majority?) of the audience wouldn’t even know it was recycled.

Unfortunately mostly the veneer of the 1980s is recycled into some commitee test audience mashup. In a way we succeeded in making “machine learning” movies “by hand”. An awful lot of movies aren’t from the human spark.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.
Fury Road made sense. The fact that Furiosa is set in between the original Mad Max and the time of Fury Road kinda says "cash grab" to me. No real logical reason to insert this fifth film between films 1 and 4 other than "we don't know how to continue the storyline with something new, so let's just bridge the gaps".
I loved how they bridged the gaps. Further development of the world which made me appreciate Fury Road even more. When I saw the trailers I thought it looked terrible and was a cash grab. After a friend got me to go see it, I was happily proven wrong.

I don't think telling a story out of sequence from existing material means that it's a cash grab.

I think the trailer hurt them more than anything. It looks like a crappy CGI imitation of Fury Road, which I loved.
No, Miller originally planned to film both Fury Road and Furiosa back-to-back. Not a cash grab.
The reason is clearly "George Miller wanted to make it". In other words: not a cash grab.
It’s a watchable warmup before rewatching the previous one :) and that one still looks fucking epic.

Personally I think Chris Hemsworth was a big miscast and just plain boring and weird. If they would get somebody like Rob Zombie it could’ve been much more fun and menacing xD. Otherwise it just doesn’t take you on an emotional journey. They tried to cramp as many story lines as possible, but it just has diluted the whole experience. They didn’t use any dynamic and rememberable soundtracks. Technically they did a great job and many moments were quite similar to original one.

But at the end I left with only single thought. That this is gonna be a future of LA with all water supply issues, AI taking jobs, and poor actors, models, stand up comedians and homeless people inheriting the land xD. If only Hollywood won’t come up with an entertainment so epic that they will be able to compete with passionate creative people creating new kind of movies using AI for pennies.

> But at the end I left with only single thought. That this is gonna be a future of LA with all water supply issues, AI taking jobs, and poor actors, models, stand up comedians and homeless people inheriting the land xD.

Yes, and cosmetic surgeons slashing people, Sendero Luminoso conquering territory, Carjack Malone living on a tanker ship, Peter Fonda surfing on a stormdrain.

It's called Escape from LA, and it is glorious.

> Personally I think Chris Hemsworth was a big miscast and just plain boring and weird

Huh, I’d call out his performance as one of the best elements of the movie (which I also liked a lot overall, this isn’t a backhanded compliment)

[edit] this though:

> They didn’t use any dynamic and rememberable soundtracks.

Yeah, it bucks some stupid and bad Hollywood trends (you can see what’s happening in night scenes! You can understand the dialog!) but does follow the nigh-universal trend of having a boring soundtrack that zero people are humming on their way out of the theater. I wouldn’t have guessed I’d be looking back favorably on the original soundtracks of middling 90s movies but here we are.

Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame.

Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s.

I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

Fury Road is my idea of a blockbuster. But it was the 21st highest grossing movie of 2015! Financially, it was a mild success. Terminator Genisys made more money.
It gets blame because the massive budget

Hollywood can’t make great smaller movies like that anymore without spending $100M which raises the stakes and it also comes with a ton of studio baggage afraid of any sort of risk

Fury Road was certainly not a cash grab, but a prequel to the blockbuster of the 10s except with a female lead definitely smells like a cash grab.
She was the protagonist of the other one too. The Jay Gatsby to Max’s Nick Carraway.

And AFAIK this is built almost entirely off the extensive character background notes developed while writing her for Fury Road, so it’s not like they just cooked up this story because they needed something.

It was supposed to come out as an animated companion backstory like the Animatrix. The budget would have been lower for that. Instead we get it 10 years later and much bigger than it was meant to be. No idea whose choice that is (Miller, the studio, someone in between). If I didn't have a kid I'd have seen it opening weekend; Fury Road was a perfect flick.
I was worried, given these kind of story-behind-the-story prequels are usually a bad idea, but was pleasantly surprised. It delivers Fury Road style action of a similar (so, exceptionally high) quality both in raw action-excitement and in use of the scenes to convey story and (especially) characterization and character arcs, while being very differently-structured and not at all feeling like just the same thing again, or like it’s just trying to fill in every single gap in the setting left by Fury Road.

It also feels thick with influence and fluency in cinema per se, in a way that Fury Road didn’t to me, and I think it may mean this one rewards repeat watches to an exceptional degree.

George Miller wanted to make this story at the same time as Fury Road, right after so it wasn’t a cash grab at time of conception
What a female lead has to do with it?
I like how the anti-woke internet twisted the subject for their agenda, claiming people didn't watch because they have apprehensions about woke Hollywood and female protagonists.

Also they often don't seem to have a clue what kind of living legend George Miller is.

Literally all the numbers say the opposite.

There is a ton of ink on the topic, but the core problem is that executives get fired for failures more frequently than they get expanded upside for hits.

“Executives get fired” makes it sound like being fired is a natural consequence of a box office failure. Who is firing the executives in such a way that they incentivize mediocre performance? Maybe they should quit doing that?
The Super Mario Brothers and Barbie movies were big successes. Lots of other cash grabs make money too. But the movies that are coming out now were greenlit years ago, during the era when Marvel showed you could print money with just any lazy movies. Things are different now, but this one was already finished.
I can't remember where now, but I read that these reboot cash grabs are largely aimed at overseas markets like China which make up the majority of film earnings nowadays.
There's a reason science fiction was popular in the Soviet Union...
Please elaborate. :-)
The fantastic is sufficiently detached to provide an allowed, apolitical outlet for social commentary, where more realistic stories would be censored.
I often wonder how "Kin-dza kin-dza" could have been produced, but it was perhaps in a climate of increasing openness.
Except if there’s Winnie the Pooh in them, it’s sort of a litmus test.
I think (hope?) many of the movie watchers are caught up on the tropes and the “always makes money” formulas that Hollywood has been riding for years. If they pay attention maybe they’ll greenlight genuinely new IP and try things and let creatives explore again. You can make a lot of “failures” for $160M and if two are hits you’ve made enough to pay for all the rest.

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