- nec4b parentIf the plan is to sow division, it would be really weird to always only try to play one side. If I was trying to stir division, I would make sure to play all sides for maximum effect. But apparently other commentators here think only one side is being played and its always the same one.
- The toy one can still be as highly concurrent as the the real one. The amount of drivers written for it doesn't matter.
The point is if it were much easier, then they would overtake existing ones easily, just by adding features and iterating so much faster and that is clearly not the case.
>>difficulty of building safe, fast and highly-concurrent C
This was the original claim. The answer is, there is a tonne of C code out there that is safe, fast and concurrent. Isn't it logical? We have been using C for the last 50 years to build stuff with it and there is a lot of it. There doesn't seem to be a big jump in productivity with the newer generation of low level languages, even though they have many improvements over C.
This is anecdotal, I used to do a lot of low level C and C++ development. And C++ is a much bigger language then C. And honestly I don't think I was ever more productive with it. Maybe the code looked more organized and extendable, but it took the same or larger amount of time to write it. On the other hand when I develop with Javascript or C#, I'm easily 10 times more productive then I would be with either C or C++. This is a bit of apples and oranges comparison, but what I'm trying to say is that new low level languages don't bring huge gains in productivity.
- I don't care if there can be a bug in Rust code. It doesn't diminish the language for me. I don't appreciate mental gymnastics when evidence is readily available and your comments come out as compulsive defense of something nobody was really is attacking. I'm sorry for the jest in the comments.
- Why is glue code not normal code in Rust? I don't think anyone else would say that for any other language out there. Does it physically pain you to admit it's a bug in Rust code? I write bugs in all kind of languages and never feel the need for adjectives like "technical", "normal", "everyday" or words like "outlier" to make me feel not let down by the language of choice.
- Oh, should we tell the BBC and Wikipedia to remove all these entries then:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2dz7r708dxo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_truck_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Magdeburg_car_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_E...
- >>Of course if one writes unsafe Rust and it leads to a CVE then that's on them. >>Who's denying that?
>>The recent bug in the Linux kernel Rust code, based on my understanding, was >>in unsafe code, and related to interop with C. So I wouldn't really classify >>it as a Rust bug.
Sometimes it's good to read the whole thread.
- >>Oh no some immigrant stole something out of my garden
I thought it was more because of them driving over people at Christmas markets, forming rape gangs or stabbing random people on the streets. It's deep intellectually dishonesty like yours that is driving them to that "party". Which is a bit ironic isn't it?
- >>I for one would support a Native American take over of the White House, and giving them back their country.
What would you do with 100s of millions of Americans who are not decedent from native Americans? I'm even more curious how far back in history would you go to start returning countries to their native populations?
- >> Well starting over from first principles is exactly what the chip design and manufacture industry is doing.
No, there are thousands of hardware libraries (HDLs, IP cores, Standard cell libs) which chip designers use. Hardly anyone builds chips from first principles. They are using same layers of abstractions as software does.
- You are comparing a personal computer with a general purpose OS running 100s of processes and 1000s threads with a small micro-controller with a single process compiled together with an OS running at most a couple of threads. My PC has 100s of apps that need to coexist on the same hardware at the same time, your micro-controller only runs 1 designated app for eternity.
- I'm sorry, you are right I mixed you up with another user. You didn't make those claims.
The numbers I remember from when I was more into History:
* Hitler is responsible at least for 10 million to 15 million deaths.
* Stalin from 15 million to 20 million.
* Mao from 40 million to 70 million.
* Pol Pot from 2 million to 3 million.
* Kim Il Sung for over a million.
There are of course others, but I don't remember numbers for them.
- Parent: "Or leftist politicians, where they can do it on an industrial scale by the millions in death camps, in the name of progress."
You: "I would point out that when it comes to these, right, far right and fascists win the numbers."
>> I am curious how you conclude that Hitler is "way below" the others.
Looking at various estimates by people who were researching this topic. The numbers are usually in ranges and vary between researches. But the highest estimate for Hitler was always lower then the lowest estimates for Stalin and nowhere near Mao's lowest estimates.
- You seem to have very strong feelings when other people have different preferences then you. Why would use words like bizarre, delusional and total waste, when discussing such trivial matters.
>> Why? Do you think that is reasonable at all, when something as simple as just mounting over ssh exists?
In short yes. I use it mostly on remote machines and on my desktop Linux machine. Before that I used Norton Commander on DOS. I don't remote only from Linux machines but also from a Windows laptop. It is much quicker and easier to simple run "mc" in an ssh session when I need it than trying to mount the drive and then run another application on the local machine.
- I don't think others are talking about what you are angry about. I said that with the first reply and I'm not the only one saying it. Nobody is trying to take Zed or Neovim away from you.
By the way one of the most frequent modern TUI apps that I use is Midnight Commander. It's a very nice app, which I use mostly when I SSH into a remote machine to manage it. Is there a 2D accelerated GUI that can help me do the same?
- As someone already mentioned before, I don't think you are talking about the same terminal as others are.
>> need an enormous array of hacks to emulate basic features
What are those hacks. As far as I can remember, TUIs ran faster on ancient hardware then anything else on today's modern computers.