- keyboredI have now read your other replies from about four days ago. They go into substantive reasons like the licensing of LLVM. So I have no complaints about those.
- > As I think I conveyed in my original post, I am not against anyone using whatever language they want to make their software.
You conveyed that? How?
Really, what neat little delineation is there between your little OS hack-on world and people using whatever language they want to make their software? There isn’t. Because people on a long-running project can have members who want to move code over or start modules in Rust or whatever language. As is happening in some places.
Beyond that though the projects that one is interested in would need to remain static and not include potentially new projects written in upcoming languages.
Against that backdrop we have you, moaning about lang X potentially infecting your OSS ecocsystem.
- Obligatory use: it’s a block I guess
Voluntary use: I know this one. It’s a pattern now.
- But it is good for Just World arguments.
- > It's pretty disappointing when people like him try to block new technology just because they don't want to learn any more...
This is an irrelevant and disingenious hacker jab (oh look, they’re not a “real hacker”).
- > edit: I really, really like Rust, and I find it annoying that the clearest, most respectful arguments in this little subthread are from the people who just don't like Rust.
Keywords right there. People who don’t-like-Rust are the most coddled anti-PL group. To the extent that they can just say: I really need to speak my mind here that I just don’t like it. End of story.
I don’t think anyone else feels entitled to complain about exactly nothing. I complain about languages. In the appropriate context. When it is relevant or germane to the topic.
A “genius” Rust program running on a supercomputer solving cancer would either get a golf-clap (“I don’t like Rust, but”) or cries that this means that the contagion is irreversibly spreading to their local supercomputer cluster.
One thing is people who work on projects where they would have to be burdened by at least (even if they don’t write it themselves) building Rust. That’s practical complaining, if that makes sense. Here people are whining about it entrenching itself in muh OSS.
- Thick hustle.
- You are creating content[1] that is insightful. To everyone. Equally known.
We all cheer. We know this. Then we move on.
A catchy title. A novel enough term. That will hook them.
We all read. We all smile. The daily grind.
This insight is not original to me.
[1] It’s just content now
Not essays
Not music
Content
- Hyphen-or-minus is good enough for me.
- That this is the top comment says all you need to know about this board.
Being a city on the hill is a cudgel, not a halo. It’s always been used in a self-serving way, and always against enemies.
Who is someone who points out the flaws of their enemies but never the flaws of themselves or their friends, even though they are all equally likely to commit the same crimes?[1] That is a scoundrel. Not someone that anyone needs to wait to Call Out anyone on anything.
That it is (in this context) a self-admitted “aspiration” is the laughable part. No one else gets credit for “aspiring” (just words) to be a city on a hill. Except if it’s us.
[1] Being generous here.
- Anyway. We used MongoDB for a good while.
- > The cognitive tax
> Every obscure name is a transaction cost levied on every developer who encounters it.
It’s not a mental burden, it’s a cognitive tax. Moreover it’s a transaction cost? Levied on people? Which loads their RAM?
Where’s the simple everyday English?
- > What are we going to do about it? Many of us are withdrawing, just putting in the time without real effort, "quiet quitting". Companies still get us, but they don't get our best.
That you are framing it for apparent familiarity with the nonsense term quiet-quitting says a lot.
- > I know this will sound a bit cynical, but I've stopped putting too much care into my employer's product. I'll deliver work and perform my best, but I'm not killing myself over it.
To say (yes, with some moderation because it’s hyperbole) that you won’t kill yourself of your boss making a buck needs to be preempted with a “watch out, cynical-sounding opinion” incoming.
Oh wait. I forgot what this website is behind all the quirky/nerdy/hacker submissions.
- I never talk to people who don’t wear suits.
- - Rust is invading the Linux Kernel
- Actually, The collective Linux Kernel found that it was good enough to graduate from the experimental ph—
- Aha! You are appealing to the authority of the Linux Kernel. That’s a fallacy.
- Pointing out that something was iterated upon and adopted in the place it was introduced is now a fallacy, amazing.
- Joke, enterprise edition..