- hoistbypetardYeah, please do!
- This is a good idea, and one I've wanted to build out myself. I think I need source to review before I'm willing to use this one, though.
- Interesting. I know I'm not a very demanding user of word processing or presentation software. But I've been using zoho for basic business stuff for one of my businesses since 2019, and I wouldn't call it crap. It's not amazing, but I pay something like $12/user/year. And I get shared docs/sheets/decks + pretty decent email. And their transactional email service (zeptomail) is actually top notch IMO.
What missing integration makes you say "it's crap" and what do you consider a good version of that thing?
- That depends on your workload. I've been using Excel since 1993, and I find the things I've listed help me get things done just as well as Excel does, unless I have a pile of macros and vbscript I need to interop with.
This is not theoretical; I learned it by needing to get shit done in a context where having an activated copy of Excel wasn't practical. Excel was paralleled and in one case surpassed.
- Probably. I meant "perpetual" as opposed to "subscription" but I agree with your concern.
- Have you tried grist[0]?
It's self-hostable (and the community version is FOSS I think), and really useful in a way I find better than just a spreadsheet.
It's no good for importing complex excel things, but I've found it very useful for new work.
- For legacy spreadsheets, you're 100% correct. I'll need to keep a version of Excel around forever. If they price me out of 365 by making me pay for Copilot shit I don't use or want, a perpetual license to Office 2019 runs about $20 and will do that job for me.
For new work that I might have otherwise done in Excel, there are good options. Collabora works. Libre Office works. Google sheets works. And Grist is quite good, and self-hostable.
- Zoho and Collabora spring immediately to mind.
- You might enjoy decker:
- All of the descriptions on that reading list give me strong LLM vibes. Which, given the source, seems like it should be expected. This post could have stopped after hypothesis 1.
- That... looks like it would let me do this exactly the way I want to for npm and python. For my C++ stuff, it's all vendored and manual anyway.
I had not seen that tool. Thanks for pointing it out.
- For anyone else who can’t get to LinkedIn right now:
- schadenfuckup
- When they closed the discussion, they explicitly welcomed people to talk about it outside their issue tracker:
> Our issue trackers (other projects may differ) are used to track the work for maintainers or soliciting community contributions. They do not exist for people to debate the merits of decisions already made. We have Homebrew/discussions (and, well, the rest of the internet) for that.
They just don't want discussion about the merits of a settled decision to interfere with their work tracking when they provide a perfectly good discussion forum[1] for that.
- Are you running any electron apps that have not yet been updated to use the most recent upstream electron?
https://furbo.org/2025/10/06/tahoe-electron-detector/
I've got a couple things that I use which aren't yet up-to-date, and are blocking my upgrade.
- Their prices include credits for all the different models, FWIW, with the ability to buy more if you use them up. If I've understood your pricing correctly, you require me to bring API keys for all the models I want to use. I won't say one is better than the other for that reason, but it adds a lot of additional friction for LLM Onestop compared to t3.chat from my perspective.
- What's your short pitch for why this is better than https://t3.chat?
- They sure as shit do have ads. Have you ever accidentally followed a link using a browser profile that has no ad blocking enabled?
I only rarely browse without some form of content blocking (usually privacy-focused... that takes care of enough ads for me, most of the time). I keep a browser profile that's got no customizations at all, though, for verifying that bugs I see/want to report are not related to one of my extensions.
Every once in a while, I'll accidentally open a link to a news site (or to an archive of such a site) in that vanilla profile. I'm shocked at how many ads you see if you don't take some counter measures.
I just confirmed in that profile: archive.is definitely puts ads around the sites they've archived.
- > I want the bug tracker to be readable from Dillo itself.
I’m glad you’re prioritizing this and that you consider this a reason to choose a different forge.
- I used to work with people who would reply, editing the subject line to end with something like " ACK. <eom>"
These "reaction" message seem about the same as that, and are no more or less annoying. If it became disruptive, I'd rather ask people to stop than fiddle with my server configuration to try to make it stop.