- deauxI was only talking about training so you're probably right about retention - I care more about training.
- Yeah Github of course has proper enterprise agreements with all the models they offer and they include a no-training clause. The $10/mo plan is probably the best value for money out there currently along with Codex $20/mo (if you can live with GPT's speed).
- Okay, that sounds pretty reasonable for a $20 subscription.
- Copilot Pro works with a total requests budget rather than per-model limits unless something changed. Could you explain?
- A lot of the criticism from GPT-5.x models stems from the fact they're dog slow so you end up paying with your own time.
- It helps that Codex is so much slower than Anthropic models, a 4.5 hours Codex session might as well be a 2 hour Claude Code one. I use both extensively FWIW.
- Daily limit? Weekly limit? Hitting a weekly limit after an hour still doesn't seem very productive.
- Huge caveat: For the $20/mo subscription Google hasn't made clear if they train on your data. Anthropic and OAI on the other hand either clearly state they don't train on paid usage or offer very straightforward opt-outs.
https://geminicli.com/docs/faq/
> What is the privacy policy for using Gemini Code Assist or Gemini CLI if I’ve subscribed to Google AI Pro or Ultra?
> To learn more about your privacy policy and terms of service governed by your subscription, visit Gemini Code Assist: Terms of Service and Privacy Policies.
> https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p...
The last page only links to generic Google policies. If they didn't train on it, they could've easily said so, which they've done in other cases - e.g. for Google Studio and CLI they clearly say "If you use a billed API key we don't train, else we train". Yet for the Pro and Ultra subscriptions they don't say anything.
This also tracks with the fact that they enormously cripple the Gemini app if you turn off "apps activity" even for paying users.
If any Googlers read this, and you don't train on paying Pro/Ultra, you need to state this clearly somewhere as you've done with other products. Until then the assumption should be that you do train on it.
- You're moving goalposts - my bigger point was about daily life becoming impossible without Google/Apple, and digital banking is one of the prime examples of this. On top of that Meta is the natural 3rd party in that group.
- I wonder if all the games you named combined surpass what Mihoyo makes off the likes of Genshin Impact.
- Haha, let me guess, if they're based in Ireland then this enforcement is up to Ireland as well, so it's as toothless as the other digital laws?
- Never seen a post this blatantly and intensely astroturfed/seeded on HN. 100% positive comment rate despite the type of product it is, near all of them either same-day-created greens and 5+ year old very low activity, out-of-the-woodwork. You need to study the community more before doing this to understand ratios and how people talk and interact.
- > Or to put it in other way - food itself is often superb, as long as its more traditional one and not some copy of foreign one (ie dont try south/east asian stuff its rather disappointing).
Hah, I was thinking this as well while reading the parent - maybe this explains why non-European food tends to be especially bad in France. Even compared to places like the UK or the Netherlands which aren't exactly known for their food and where too most non-European food isn't great.
- So which non-Meta platforms do schools and teachers primarily use to communicate with parents and students? How well is the Apple/Google-less digital banking in Portugal holding up? I'm sure like you're saying things in Portugal are better than average for Europe, but it's not representative.
- I'll give you a short reply, as another person who finds MCP very useful. I think a big gap is that MCP's are often marketed as "taking actions" for you, because that's flashy and looks cool in the eyes of laymen. While most of their actual value is the opposite, in using them to gather information to take better non-MCP actions. Connecting them to logs, read-only to (e.g. mock) databases, knowledge bases, and so on. All for querying, not for create/update/delete.
- > All public MCP server I’ve seen have been a disaster with too many tools and tokens polluting the context.
People like to shit on Copilot's UX but something it does well is making it incredibly easy to switch off individual tools you don't need per MCP server. In general I've found its MCP story the best out of all of them (Codex/CC/Gemini), it utilizes VSCode extensions integration very well.
- If you know you need them though, do use them. There are four MCP servers I use regularly and they're enormously useful. They're all around the same topic though - pulling in context/data from sources. One is dual-use, in that I occasionally also use it for things like dashboard generation.
I will say, when using MCP be selective about which tools you enable. A lot of the time they come with say 30 tools and you only personally care about 5 of them. The other 25 are just rotting your context.
- Where in this post's article are you seeing this pattern?
> Parsing a known HTML structure
In most cases, HTML structures that are being parsed aren't known. If they're known, you control them, and you don't need to parse them in the first place. If they're someone else's, who knows when they'll change, or under what condition they're different.
But really, I don't see the stuff you're talking about happening in prod for non-one-off usecases. I see LLMs used in prod usecases exactly for data where you don't know exactly what its shape will be, and there's an enormous amount of such cases. If the same logic is needed every time, of course you don't have an LLM execute that logic, you have the LLM write a deterministic script.
- > Unless all around the world is the usual "world === USA".
Not at all. US isn't even the leader on this. For example in many countries it's already much harder to do any kind of digital banking without a Google/Apple-approved phone than in the US.
In Europe as well, more and more places where it's completely the norm for schools and teachers to do all their communication through Facebook or Whatsapp. Sure those have web, but are arguably the worst of the three. Portugal nor most European countries are above this at all. If only they were. Look at all the national IDs rolled out, those too more and more mandatory Apple/Android 2FA.
Will Portuguese teachers never downgrade any students who do all their homework on e.g. OpenOffice and it doesn't look nice on the teacher's MS Office? Doubt it.
- This comparison doesn't work at all. An APK for app A is compatible with Android devices of version X, regardless of the store it is sold on. A cosmetic for game B is not compatible with all games running on the same engine Y, for obvious reasons.
Asking Fortnite to accept other stores selling Fortnite-compatible cosmetics doesn't work either because Fortnite has not monopolized a trillion-dollar industry, meanwhile spending billions on lobbying to make daily life for the average citizen impossible without them, which the Google-Apple cartel has. Fortnite has also never gained market share by pursuing claims about being an open source platform or not being evil, again unlike Google. These differences.. make all the difference. Call me when my kids are forced to agree to Fortnite EULAs to participate in schooling all around the world.