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- One reason why you should never think or say [or write] FLA, but always Four Letter Acronym (probably?), even if that is longer.
- Nah, cr and rc are different tokens and LLMs would have no issues telling them apart. An older model might have trouble explaining that cr and rc are similar and can thus get easily mixed up, but the characters are probably more different to the LLM than they are to us.
- This is maybe just me, but I need to remind myself of the opposite: All solutions are temporary and imperfect. So just do something, I can always go back and correct it.
For me this means that I'm allowed to store away 3 things from the moving box, even though I don't know where to put the rest yet. To invite others even though I don't know what to cook yet or to write a bad implementation quickly, instead of spending hours figuring out the best one.
I think a balance of perfectionism and can-do is important. But as people are predisposed differently, either advice might make sense in different circumstances.
- Well, when the actual content is 100s of terabytes big, providing URLs may be more practical for them and for others.
- There is nothing "introverted high IQ nerd" about being creative. Think about everyone that is practicing music, artistry, crafts, rhetoric, cooking, languages, philosophy, writing, gardening, carpentry, and whatever you can think of. Most of them don't do it for money.
> [...] how it will affect all types of people and cultures on this planet.
Some will definitely feel without purpose. But I'd argue that just having a job so that you have a purpose is just a band-aid, not a real solution. I won't say that purposelessness isn't a problem, just that it would be great to actually address the issue.
Granted, I do hold a utopic view. I continue to be curious due to my religious belief, where I'm looking forward to life unconstrained by age. Regardless whether this will manifest, I think it is healthy to remain curious and continue learning. So on "how it will affect all types of people": I really do think that people without purpose need to engage in curiosity and creativity, for their own mental health.
- > Hobbies, hanging out with friends, reading, etc. That's basically it. > It will be like a simple retirement on a low income [...].
Yes, like retirement but without the old age. Right now I'm studying, so I do live on a very low income. But still, there are so many interesting things! For example, I'm trying to design a vacuum pump to 1mbar to be made of mostly 3d printed parts. Do vacuum pumps exist and can I buy them? Absolutely. But is it still fun to do the whole designing process? You bet. And I can't even start explaining all the things I'm learning.
> This will drive a lot of young ambitious people to insanity.
I teach teenagers in the age where they have to choose their profession. The ones going insane will be the unambitious people, those who just stay on TikTok all day and go to work because what else would they do? The ambitious will always have ideas and projects. And they won't mind creating something that already exists, just because they like the process of it.
We already see this with generative AI. Even though you could generate most of the images you'd want already, people still enjoy the process of painting or photographing. Humans are made to be creative and take pleasure from it, even if it is not economically valuable.
Hell, this is Hacker News. Hacking (in its original sense) was about creativity and problem-solving. Not because it will make you money, but because it was interesting and fun.
- Yes! Sounds like a dream. My value isn't determined by some economic system, but rather by myself. There is so much to do when you don't have to work. Of course, this assumes we actually get to UBI first, and it doesn't create widespread poverty. But even if humanity will have to go through widespread poverty, we'd porbably come out with UBI on the other side (minus a few hundred millions starved).
There's so much to do, explore and learn. The prospect of AI stealing my job is only scary because my income depends on this job.
- This is fascinating. I mean it's not an argument against LLMs (I have only one brain, even though I'd like to have more). But I really hope that we'll learn much more about how our brains work.
- > Just because you divide a number by a lot to get a small number doesn't make the original number smaller.
A bus emits more CO2 than a car. Yet it is more friendly to the environment because it transports more people.
> Those are 200M/d prompts that wouldn't happen without the training.
Sure, but at least a few millions are deriving value from it. We know this because they pay. So this value wouldn't have been generated without the investment. That's how economics work.
- Sure, it's a value calculation.
If you're able to serve delicious pizzas afterwards, it was worth wasting the first kg (you might call it an investment).
If you're able to bring value to millions of users, it was worth to invest a few GWh into training.
You might disagree on the usefulness. I think, you shouldn't have wasted a kg of flour because I won't ever eat your pizzas anyway. But many (you, your guests, ChatGPT users) might think it was worth it.
- From the article:
> Training GPT-4 used 50 GWh of energy. Like the 20,000 households point, this number looks ridiculously large if you don’t consider how many people are using ChatGPT.
> Since GPT-4 was trained, it has answered (at minimum) about 200,000,000 prompts per day for about 700 days. Dividing 50GWh by the total prompts, this gives us 0.3Wh per prompt. This means that, at most, including the cost of training raises the energy cost per prompt by 10%, from 10 Google searches to 11. Training doesn’t add much to ChatGPT’s energy cost.
https://andymasley.substack.com/i/162196004/training-an-ai-m...
- Wrong. In the article:
> Training GPT-4 used 50 GWh of energy. Like the 20,000 households point, this number looks ridiculously large if you don’t consider how many people are using ChatGPT.
> Since GPT-4 was trained, it has answered (at minimum) about 200,000,000 prompts per day for about 700 days. Dividing 50GWh by the total prompts, this gives us 0.3Wh per prompt. This means that, at most, including the cost of training raises the energy cost per prompt by 10%, from 10 Google searches to 11. Training doesn’t add much to ChatGPT’s energy cost.
https://andymasley.substack.com/i/162196004/training-an-ai-m...
- Reminds me also of the "Up Goer Five". An xkcd poster which roughly explains Saturn V with only the top 1000 used words in English[0]. Even better IMO is the collab video with MinutePhysics[1].
- The headers are hyperlinks.
- Did you try? It's a few years ago when I had to create one, but it was just as simple as WhatsApp (just a few more CAPTCHAs). And no VPNs or whatever, straight from a Swiss IP.
- When you click on edit, you can see the specific section of the ToS: https://edit.tosdr.org/points/11339
Apparently this means that YT can acces the synced browser history if you're logged into Chrome.
- Well yeah, European here so things might be a little different, but our family's budget for holydays was usually around 1500-2500$. As a result I've never travelled outside Europe. I've only flown to the Canary Islands twice and otherwise travelled by car. Big money saver. And also camping is cheaper compared to AirBnB and hotels. Though you can usually squeeze two weeks out of that budget.
- Ente[0] has this feature (locally run on mobile/desktop). It marks recognized faces in your gallery and then you can search for any combination of faces.
[0]: https://ente.io/
- > How would you trust that the agent is following the criteria, and how sure that the criteria is specific enough?
How do you know if a spam filter heuristic works only when intended?
You test it. Hard. On the thousands of emails in your archive, on edge-cases you prepare manually, and on the incoming mails. If it doesn't work for some cases, write tests that test for this, adjust prompt and run the test suite.
It won't ever work in 100% of all cases, but neither do spam filters and we still use them.
It gave me a much better intuition than my math course.