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Are people here objecting to Gen AI being used to take their jobs? I mainly see people objecting to the social, legal, and environmental consequences.

What's the problem with that, anyway? I object to training a machine to take/change my job [building them, telling them what to do]. What's more, they want me to pay? Hah. This isn't a charity. I either strike fortune, retire while the getting is good, or simply work harder for nothing. Hmm. I think I'll keep not displacing people, actually. Myself included.

To GP: not all of us who automate go for low hanging fruit, I guess.

To the peer calling this illegitimate [or anyone, really]: without the assistance of an LLM, please break down the foul nature of... let me check my notes, gainful employment.

> Are people here objecting to Gen AI being used to take their jobs?

Yes, even if they don't say it. The other objections largely come from the need to sound more legitimate.

Let me get this straight. You think Rob Pike, is worried about his job being taken? Do you know who he is?
To any person with a view on numbers (who may as well be an AI), ignorant of any authority, he would be someone who is very overpaid and too much of a critical risk factor.
This is a stance that violates tha guidelines of HN.

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Gen AI taking programmer's jobs is 20 years away.

At the moment, it's just for taking money from gullible investors.

Its eating into business letters, essays and indie art generation but programming is a really tough cookie to crack.

It's taking away programmers jobs today. I know of multiple small companies where hires were not made or contractors not engaged with simply due to the additional productivity gained by using Gen AI. This is for mundane "trivial" work that is needed to glue stuff together for the fields those small companies operate within.

It's like how "burger flippers" didn't go extinct due to automation. The burger joint simply mechanised and automated the parts that made sense, and now a lunch shift is handled by 5 employees instead of 20.

They will not replace the calibre of folks like Rob Pike in quite some time, perhaps (and I'd bet on) never.

I will grant you that the hype does not live up to the reality. The vast majority of jobs being taken from US developers are simply being offshored with AI as an excuse - but it is an actual real phenomenon I've personally witnessed.

But is it meaningfully different from the outsource to India craze?

That certainly in the short term took some programmers jobs away. That doesn't mean it pans out in the long term.

Must be nice to read people's minds and use that info in an argument. Tough to beat.

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