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False analogy given by this federal judge. App stores are gateways to social environments and unknown or future content. Every book in a bookstore can be verified because the content can be known and audited. Regardless of opinion on the root issue, this judges statement aligns books with the Internet and they are absolutely not the same.
Aloisius
> Every book in a bookstore can be verified because the content can be known and audited

A bookstore with a single employee can no more verify the content of every new book or periodical put up for sale than Apple can verify all new content on the internet.

Books and periodicals come out far, far too quickly for an independently owned bookstore to read first. Never mind new books which have set release dates where bookstores might not get advanced copies for books sold on consignment.

owisd
That’s an argument that sounds convincing in principle, but in reality I can walk into any independent bookstore and find it’s not filled with porn and AI slop, so clearly there is a successful vetting process going on. Namely, the publishers vet the books then the bookstore owner only has to vet the publishers. A proof of concept internet equivalent is if I scrape a bunch of trusted YouTube channels onto a NAS and give my kids access to that NAS but block YouTube access otherwise.
baby_souffle
This hypothetical independent shop you walk into is not filled with slop because it's curated; the store is intentionally keeping its inventory to a manageable level so that it can be screened first.

If the owner stopped caring and just decided to let any book that passed through the automated "does this book immediately and actively harm the customer?" screening machine then you'd have something that approximates the app stores.

Permik
Hello, it's me, your billionaire friend, Broizoz, take a look at my book store.

[Image with a bookstore filled with AI slop]

nunez
Yes, but you can't stop eight year olds from grabbing a James Patterson or Stephen King novel from the shelf. Their parents should, and some librarians might throw a moral exception to their choice, but if they wanna read It, they're gonna read It.

Enforcing anything other than that is a huge 1A violation IMO.

The_President OP
"you can't stop eight year old from ..."

Phrasing this as "you" versus "a second party to the child" involves me, where I originally did not present a statement that would give the impression that I'd be involved. Keep me - "you" - out of it. I'm simply making fun of this analogy.

folkrav
Let's not go down the semantic argument route and pretend like the impersonal you is not a thing in the English language.
lmz
With that argument you could argue for age gating wifi access and mobile data.
The_President OP
Bookstore and libraries are environments where content is known. I am not making any sort of argument that identifies internet access as something to age gate.

Correct analogies should be used to present the most fool proof argument.

Refreeze5224
Who cares if you don't like his analogy? His point is that this is a violation of the 1st Amendment. Which, by the way, does not mention anything about content being known or not.
The_President OP
I should have contacted you, Refreeze98, prior to posting my comment that contained far less of an abstraction than you've condescendingly supplemented.
mjd
Have you read the opinion?
The_President OP
Yes and I am addressing the quoted remark above which stands out.

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