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> Well that's kind of my point. `ls` and `find` are "supposed to be" POSIX `ls` and `find`.

I don't know about that, I at least wouldn't 100% agree on that. Mostly since POSIX only defines short args it kinda makes just not want to use them, since I like to spell out the long arg in scripts for clarity. So by default I just assume I am using GNU coreutils (since BSD coreutils have slightly different names in some places IIRC). And since there isn't such a destinction between "POSIX coreutils" and "GNU coreutils" like there is with "POSIX shell" (sh) and "bash" I wouldn't call the situations equivalent.


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