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crazygringo parent
> If they've run out of bread, let them eat cake.

Genuinely don't know what you're talking about.

There's massive demand in Hollywood for good VFX people. It's not some luxury job or something...?

mikkupikku
There's demand for VFX artists like there's demand for video game developers; so many people want to do it that it drives wages down and there's demand for even cheaper labor. Nobody dreams of making TV commercials, movies are what people want to make.
crazygringo OP
Yes there are so many people that want to do it. Unfortunately, they're mostly junior-level. There continues to be a real shortage of senior-level VFX talent.
mikkupikku
Okay, so the junior VFX guys who could only get jobs making commercials should, now that there is less demand for them to make commercials, go make movies instead? Make it make sense.
crazygringo OP
Why are you assuming it's the junior VFX guys making commercials? Commercials have big budgets too.

It's the same studios. They do work both for Hollywood and ad agencies.

But if ad agencies decide they're happier with lower-quality AI for 5% of the price (whereas they weren't if junior artists were still 50% of the price), while movie producers are not, then yes. They can make movies instead.

Does that "make sense" enough for you...?

mikkupikku
Okay, so the senior VFX artist who has the experience to get a job in the movie industry if he wants it, instead gets a job in the commercial industry because the pay is better or maybe he just prefers it, now has to work in the movie industry contrary to his preferences.

No matter which way you slice it, you're not doing anybody a favor by eliminating their job. People generally already work the best job they can manage to and by eliminating that job you're making them pick another job they otherwise wouldn't have picked, or worse and more often, leaving them without a job because they were already working in the best job they were qualified for.

The whole "now that these jobs have been eliminated, the former workers are free to find a new job!" thing is bullshit cope. Always has been. They were already free to chose another job, and chose the one you think you're 'freeing' them from. You're not giving them choice, you're taking it from them.

doph
There's a reason nearly all of the old guard VFX studios were driven to bankruptcy over the last decade and it doesn't have anything to do with massive demand for talent.
crazygringo OP
Yes, the reason was massive underbidding and fixed-bid contracts that would overrun. In other words, mismanagement.

There still aren't enough senior-level VFX artists in a Hollywood. It continues to be a blocker.

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