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But the concern in this thread wasn't that people consider Zig or Rust good, so don't try to frame it this way, because it is dishonest.

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> [Learning Zig] is about fundamentally changing how you think about software.

This is not the same. Something like it could be said about Lisp, Forth, Prolog, Smalltalk, Fractran or APL, even Brainfuck, not Rust or Zig. No, thinking about object lifetimes or allocators is not "fundamental change" in how to think about software. It is bread and butter of thinking about software. Therefore I believe this is cultish behavior - you assign extraordinary properties to something rather dull and not that much different from other mainstream languages.

> I bet you were one of the people who dismissed the iPhone as "just apple fanbois" back in the day

Wrong. I still dismiss people praising Apple, swallowing some bullshit about "vision" etc. as fanboys.


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