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jandrewrogers parent
An enormous amount of traditional food from around the world has a lot of salt in it. Salt is not a modern invention.

For example, humans have been eating olives for tens of thousands of years. Olives contain and require prodigious amounts of salt to taste good, usually in the form of seawater.


buu700
High salt intake is only an issue on a high-carb diet or with inadequate hydration. Otherwise, consuming adequate salt/electrolytes can actually be a bit of a chore. Like saturated fat, salt has been incorrectly demonized in the course of propping up ill-conceived modern dietary standards.
jandrewrogers OP
Salt pills were a thing for people working in hot climates. The military requires electrolyte augmentation in such conditions. These days we use fancier electrolyte blends but it is still largely salt. If you are on a multi-day fast it is the primary thing you need to replenish aside from water.

I do some pretty serious backcountry trekking in the summer. You can feel when your electrolytes are low after several hours, the signs aren’t particularly subtle. Fortunately, you can slam a few grams of electrolytes and you’re back to normal in a matter of minutes.

Our bodies can handle it, humans largely developed in regions where electrolyte depletion was a risk. The amount of salt you have to consume to regulate your electrolytes in environments with high electrolyte loss dwarf what you are going to consume in typical food, processed or not. The idea that the average human is hyper-sensitive to consuming too much salt is preposterous. Even animals gravitate toward salt licks.

The idea came from linking salt to heart failure, but last I checked the link was a confounding variable - e.g. bad diet leads to problems that themselves lead to high cholesterol. It was not the salt in the food but the quality of the nutrition itself.

However blaming salt was quick and easy so that’s what the people with money did.

Historically speaking salt has been such a scarce and valuable resource. I have read accounts how in the balkans people would resort to selling kids to slavery just so the family could have enough salt to survive (sacrificing one kid to save the rest).

When I started reading about how salt was bad for you it never made any sense.

onraglanroad
No, excessive salt causes high blood pressure. It is definitely a problem. Limit your intake to 6g a day or less. That's plenty for flavour.

Source: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/salt-in-you...

nradov
Yikes. It's so disappointing to see public health agencies pushing medical misinformation but that's nothing new for the NHS, I guess. In reality if you look at this from an evidence-based medicine perspective what really matters is not the quantity but rather the osmolality. And the optimal level depends on multiple factors including genetics and activity level.

https://doi.org/10.1111/jch.13374

buu700
Agreed. The idea that salt is merely a flavoring with negative side effects has always struck me as indicative of an unhealthy relationship with food. It aligns with a broader Calvinistic tendency to view pleasure and harm as inherently linked, which is fortunately at odds with reality.
thaumasiotes
Pre-Industrial Societies: Anatomy of the Pre-Modern World observes that even in relentlessly noncommercialized societies, robust markets existed in two commodities: iron and salt. They were traded on the market within villages that otherwise had little use for markets, and they would make their way by international trade routes to even the most isolated cultures.

For iron, that trade would have mostly been in tools. For salt the only reason is that salt is a vital nutrient and if you can't get enough of it, you die. (Though I think it's worth observing that iron is a vital nutrient too.)

thaumasiotes
> Like saturated fat, salt has been incorrectly demonized in the course of propping up ill-conceived modern dietary standards.

The history actually runs in the other direction - step one was that someone decided that salt was bad, and step two was that a bunch of dietary standards were created to express the revealed truth that salt was bad. The demonization is the beginning of the process and was done for its own sake.

dreamcompiler
OMG I ate an olive off a tree once in Italy because I was stupid. Never, never do that.
collingreen
I'm intrigued. Please share more details!
jandrewrogers OP
Natural olives contain a chemical called oleuropein[0] which has a strong nasty bitter taste that renders them inedible. Soaking olives in a strong brine removes the oleuropein from the olive, turning them into the edible olive people love.

Most people don't know this. It is a common prank to convince people that don't know better to eat the fruit off the tree. As the other poster said, don't do that.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein

collingreen
I had no idea! Thank you!
wincy
Olives are extremely bitter until they’re brined. My wife still can’t handle the brined ones she says it tastes terribly bitter.
rkomorn
This reminds me of lupins which also need quite a bit of preparation before being consumable.

I'm always kind of bemused by the "necessity is the mother of invention" aspect that gave us various food preps and conservation methods.

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