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Yes, but it does not provide health care, it provides a subsidy to the health insurance companies (I.e., throwing even more money at lucrative companies that profit by denying coverage). It is sad that it is the best our government can do for us.

It is sad, agreed, but having the ACA is better than not having it.
That seems like a difficult one to provide evidence for. A major problem in the US seems to be that they've got this impenetrable thicket of legislation around healthcare, insurance and employment that makes it impossible for people to make rational decisions.

Just not having that legislation, letting employment & insurance decouple and a sane market for healthcare develop might easily be better than the ACA.

> Just not having that legislation, letting employment & insurance decouple and a sane market for healthcare develop might easily be better than the ACA.

Maybe? But what is the mechanism by which employment gets decoupled from health insurance? That would require a different law, I suppose?

But that wasn't what I suggested: I said having the ACA is better than not having it, not that having the ACA is better than other possible alternative laws. I can think of quite a lot of alternative healthcare reform laws that would be significantly better than the ACA.

And I think it's reasonably safe to say that in "ACA vs. nothing else", ACA wins, if we judge by the millions of people who will lose healthcare coverage if the ACA were to be repealed and not replaced with anything new.

> But that wasn't what I suggested: I said having the ACA is better than not having it, not that having the ACA is better than other possible alternative laws.

It seems to be the only way to interpret what you suggested. How could it end up in a situation where there aren't other alternative laws? There are automatically laws governing what people do - laws exist. The conversation is entirely about which laws are best. In this case, I'm arguing that generic rules (not specifically tailored to healthcare) are probably better, since a generic market seems to outperforms the US healthcare system.

> And I think it's reasonably safe to say that in "ACA vs. nothing else", ACA wins

Well I can't control what you think but I can point out that it is a hard stance to provide evidence for. Healthcare is fundamentally less important than really urgent and essential services like food production or utilities and they manage to get great coverage with relatively limited fuss. The reports I've heard are that people find the situation in healthcare to be quite substandard.

I honestly don't understand why good healthcare should develop under free rational conditions. Why shouldn't a hospital charge your everything while you are in critical condition? I mean, it's a voluntary deal, take it or leave it, right?
When people say “no regulations” they almost always mean “except these unspoken base rules I take for granted”.

Unregulated market is an oxymoron. It’s always regulated by someone, warlords being the extreme devolution.

You could ask the same question most things. Food and water for example - both more urgent and more necessary than most medical care. The costs are still low.
For food and water, if you were caught in a tough place, I suppose I could charge you for everything. But most people aren't refugees in a hostile land, so they have the time to drive around.

For a medical emergency it does make sense for a doctor to ask if you would like to voluntarily consider an interesting bargain.

The vast, vast majority of the spending in the healthcare industry is for things that you have time to drive around for.

And I'd still rather have a private option in the event of a medical emergency. Ironically, insurance in a free market is actually really good at sorting out that sort of risk. The insurance company has strong incentives to negotiate what will happen in an emergency and it isn't that hard to make agreements with people in advance.

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