Hey, as long as the deep fried mushrooms are replacing the deep fried chicken wings as an appetizer, that's the sort of progress I'm talking about. It's better the vibes change such that 50% of people start ordering plant based meals 10% more often than that 1% of us go fully vegan, and feels like a lot more likely and possible.

Why is it that any discussion on the horrors of meat-eating and factory farming inevitably invites this kind of morally nihilistic hedonism. Just because you like doing a thing does not make that thing justifiable. It’s that simple.