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perrygeo parent
Is there an unavoidable tradeoff here? Keys that order nicely (auto-incrementing integers, UUIDv7) naturally leak information. Keys that are more secure (UUIDv4) can have performance problems because they have poor locality.

Or are there any random id generators that can compromise, remain sequential-ish without leaking exact timestamps and global ordering?

inopinatus
Symmetric encryption of IDs at the edge. Optional embedded HMAC. Optional text encoding. For monotonic bigserial values I'm somewhat fond of base58(AES_K1(id{8} || HMAC_K2(id{8})[0..7])) with purpose/table-salted HKDF subkeys from a scrypt'd system passphrase. The hot path of this is pretty fast. As with all cryptographic solutions it comes with a whole new jungle of pitfalls, caveats, and tradeoffs, but it works.
morshu9001
How big would the resulting public ID be?
inopinatus
That depends on exact scheme and text encoding, but in the example I give above, they are 22 characters, and I will even pad them in the text encoder for length consistency.
mjb
Yes. The spatial locality benefits drop off quite quickly. A hashed uuidv7-like scheme with a rotating salt, for example, would keep short term locality and it's performance benefits while not having long term locality and it's downsides.
AlotOfReading
The tradeoff is unavoidable. At one end is UUIDv4. At the far end is a gray code with excellent locality, but inherently allows you to know which half of the indices the record is from (even without inverting it). UUIDv7 is a pretty good middle ground.

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