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(political opinion incoming)

Other than his mention of Tommy Robinson, it is not radical or unacceptable to say "Wow, my city has changed radically in the past 20 years and is losing its identity".

If the center and the left completely reject the validity of national identity and the expectation of immigrant integration to British identity, then you leave people with those sentiments running into the only open arms left: the far-right and the rest of their agenda.

As a liberal, even a progressive in my own mind, I still recognize that completely open borders are a problem and that we should expect all people coming to a country to want to learn the language and integrate with the native community and customs. This concept is compatible with respecting cultural diversity and immigrant populations and their civil rights.

And the UK really seems to have a free speech problem. Support Palestine too much? Jail. Support immigration controls too much? Believe or not, jail.

FINALLY - I don't see how this kind of hard-fork-over-politics maneuver helps change minds in the long run. It only generates bitterness.


mijoharas
> If the center and the left completely reject the validity of national identity and the expectation of immigrant integration to British identity

He explicitly cited race, not "British identity" he quoted a Wikipedia page where he took stats excluding non-white British.

I don't think he was arguing the point you're attributing to him.

blibble
> Other than his mention of Tommy Robinson, it is not radical or unacceptable to say "Wow, my city has changed radically in the past 20 years and is losing its identity".

what does DHH, a Dane, who as far as I'm aware has never lived in London (and certainly doesn't now), know about London/the UK?

absolutely fuck all

he should keep his trap shut, in the same way Elon Musk should stop attempting to stoke nationalist fires in a foreign nation

I am also a (British, not American) liberal, and I agree with your comments about integration

the UK has an integration problem that successive political leaders have attempted to brush under the carpet, whilst ignoring the electorate's desire for a reduced rate of immigration

but the sort of nativist crassness displayed in that blog post is not the answer

and leads down a very nasty road that we thought we had defeated forever 60 years ago

> And the UK really seems to have a free speech problem. Support Palestine too much? Jail. Support immigration controls too much? Believe or not, jail.

I'm afraid this type of authoritarianism always seems to come with a labour government

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