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It's news to me that the RubyCentral event had anything to do with DHH at least directly.

You are alleging that Shopify was retaliating. Do you have any reliable context that Shopify was acting in a retaliatory manner?


overfeed
I'm sure it's a total coincidence that Shopify (on whose board DHH sits) coincidentally became an active participant on toppling the maintainers soon after they criticized DHH.

Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to proove it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor.

runjake OP
What you believe and what you can document are two separate things.

Per the concept of "innocent until proven guilty", there is no burden on Shopify to prove they didn't do what you believe. The burden is on you to provide evidence for the motivations behind their actions.

I personally doubt Tobi got Shopify to where it was by making rash decisions based on emotions and drama.

overfeed
Not only does one have to do the right thing, one has to be seen doing the right thing, because actual malfeasance and the appearance of malfeasance are indistinguishable on the outside. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Tobi/Shopify doesn't care for what the little people think, so this rule-of-thumb may not apply.

Your second para is appeal to authority. A former CEO of mine (not a billionaire though, but a mere centimillionaire) was a drama magnet, thin-skinned, and a vengeful little shit.

basisword
Hacker News isn’t a court. Nobody has to provide evidence for any opinion they share.
runjake OP
They should provide evidence when they are leveling accusations against others.

That's how a reasonable society works.

andrewmutz
> Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to prooave it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor.

That’s just a way of saying “I don’t have any evidence of what I’m claiming”

ModernMech
It's more like saying "I wasn't born yesterday"
shadowgovt
I don't have any signal one way or the other on whether Shopify retaliated; the fact DHH is on their board I learned from this thread.

I have seen the "soft-hostile takeover" executed in other contexts, however. I don't think it's necessary to presume DHH used his influence as a Shopify board member to seal the deal or that he would have ulterior motive in doing so; in my experience, it's sufficient for a company to see a valuable piece of a puzzle they care about go vulnerable to acquisition offers to make the offer (with the corresponding stick). I'm willing to be convinced otherwise in either direction if more information presents itself; all I know is that Shopify put the offer on the table "We'll back-fill your funding gap or we'll make it much worse; your call." And I've seen that offer made in a completely capitalism-red-in-tooth-and-claw "business is business" way in the past.

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