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mring33621 parent
So this whole thing stems from a dislike of DHH?

It also seems like rubygems.org could simply fork the rubygems code, perform whatever 'security and governance' changes they believed were needed in their fork, and run with that?

Isn't that the open source way of handling disagreements in direction?


Mystery-Machine
It seems like it stems from dislike of André
saghm
As best I've been able to understand it, a dislike of DHH led to the opportunity for those with a dislike of André to do all the stuff under discussion. I doubt we'll ever know the whole story, but in the absence of any of the additional context that some people claim exists (but haven't made public), this seems to be the most coherent explanation for what happened.
bl4kers
> So this whole thing stems from a dislike of DHH?

Not really. Shopify threatened to pull funding for them which set the whole thing in motion

tomnipotent
Which only had weight because Sidekiq pulled funding because Ruby Central wouldn't deplatform DHH.
blasphemers
Isn't rubygems distributed as part of Ruby
florkbork
No, no, no, this isn't the open source way at all! I can't believe you aren't getting it still!

Because I once installed your project, I need to:

- Take over all of the accounts/access you AND all of your friends/co-maintainers used in connection with it

- Tell you it was a mistake, give back access temporarily

- Do it again!

- Have one of my board members who happens to be the treasurer say it was about the $

- Make a straight to camera YouTube post Addressing The Concerns

- Make a first "continuing our series of transparency" blog post a week later, where I use a dense corporate laden dialect to claim it was for the betterment of all mankind and definitely not about the $; because I need you to understand Where We Are Now; What This Is and What This Isn't.

- Open a Google forms question submission box.

- Smear your reputation, because you had an idea once about tracking which packages go to which companies; so I'll insinuate that you want to read everyone's mail and snoop through their undergarments drawer. What's that? My actions affected much more than just you? Quiet now, we're reshaping the narrative to smear you.

- Answer no questions, explaining that we chose to give you a regular series of Friday updates; but also We Want to Move On from the back and forth but also in that same publication have another go at the smear, because it partially worked.

- Donate the project to my state library, to take some of the heat off of me

Isn't that so much easier than typing "git clone" and "git remote add"?

(I am consistently flummoxed that a handful of people here are buying this narrative; instead of as you point out... Just applying a smidgeon of critical analysis about the usage of tools that the majority of us must use day to day and coming to the conclusion you do. Instead of doing this or accepting this conclusion, there's a frothy passion it seems for Appeal to Authority/Argument from Authority where any excuse, flaw, etc on the part of the maintainers is used to justify the whole chain of events.

It seems like it hits 5-7 facts and people can no longer manage them in short term memory, go and look at more than what is presented to them by a single party, etc; so they just default to the easiest mental shortcut.

For some reason I keep falling into the trap that "people are more educated, capable of critical thinking, and have easier access to data than ever before in history"; which I rationally know is not true)

mcphage
> So this whole thing stems from a dislike of DHH?

I don't believe this has anything to do with DHH.

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