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wredcoll parent
I personally have bought many fewer books over the last couple of years, from amazon, as they've made it harder and harder to, you know, read the books I've paid for.

Pirating books is not hard. They're probably the smallest possible thing that people are interested in copying with the broadest variation in acceptable formats.

I know I'm screaming into the void, but if I'm paying real money why is the experience from piracy sites better?


Insanity
Genuinely curious to hear why you think they make it harder and harder to read books? I've been using my Kindle daily since 2017. I read on both the Kindle device (Paperwhite and vanilla), the iPad and iPhone app, and occasionally the web reader.

I've never experienced issues with them that break the reading experience. The one issue I occasionally run into is that the book progress doesn't sync when I open the app and I have to click "sync now" which sometimes is blazingly fast and sometimes takes like a minute.

I can't imagine migrating away from Kindle now, it's probably one of my favourite devices and the Kindle is my favourite way to read.

wishfish
The reading experience is fine on Kindle. Or at least it was the last time I used it. My main problem is how they've locked down the DRM. I was on Kindle for a very long time and didn't mind the DRM because it was easily breakable. Amazon was also helpful about helping you download the book file directly. The locks they had in place were essentially bathroom door locks. And they seemed chill about it.

That's all changed now. I'd love to know why it's changed. My first thought was publisher pressure. But Kobo hasn't implemented harsh measures. Just Amazon has.

At any rate, I'm now using Kobo for my reading. Easy to break DRM. And they don't assume the same level of control over Kobo ereaders the way Amazon does with Kindle. I have over a thousand ebooks. I'm able to tag books in Calibre, and those tags automatically show up as Collections on the Kobo. It's a simple thing, but Amazon never gave me such flexibility. Makes a huge difference for me.

It's also possible to alter Kobo's UI/UX with various plugins without the need to jailbreak. Kobo (the company) is perfectly happy to let you do whatever you want with your own device. That's such a breath of fresh air compared to how Kindle is locked down.

cyberax
Their devices get steadily worse. Kindle Oasis was the best device ever. It also had cellular connectivity so you could read it on a train, then put it in the backpack and switch to listening to the same book on your phone.

All seamlessly, because Kindle used the cellular network for reading progress. Really a magical experience.

Then they removed cellular and _buttons_ from the devices. And now their app is actively crashing on my Kindle when I try to use it to buy a book.

wredcoll OP
Because I don't own a kindle nor am I willing to use their app.

I'm either old and stubborn or principled, but I want to use my current phone and "system" I've been using to read ebooks for the last 15 years.

(It's possible that kindle unlimited is a cheap enough system to make dealing with amazon software, but amazon is annoying enough that so far nothing has convinced me to buy into it)

radley
I've had decent success with a Kindle device, but when I try to use the Kindle app on my iPhone, which is rare now, it's almost always a hassle. Their iPhone app updates completely replace the app, so everything gets reset and books have to be downloaded again.

But the main problem is that they don't sync the "last read" bookmarks until you open a book. But since that book didn't have a bookmark, it's reset to the beginning and then synced, so my "last read" bookmark is now at the beginning.

pmarreck
that last-read bug sounds exactly like something that doesn't have test coverage
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renewiltord
In general, if I don’t have to pay someone to produce something I can provide a better experience to my customers than those who do.

It’s why archive.is is so much better to read on than a news site.

Might as well ask “when I engage with GPL projects it’s so much worse of an experience than if I just bundle the code and distribute it without a license, why?” It’s often cheaper to not comply than to comply.

But my kindle has definitely been “good enough” for me with Libby.

wredcoll OP
> In general, if I don’t have to pay someone to produce something I can provide a better experience to my customers

Amazon theoretically makes money with which they pay people to make the user experience good.

Pirates have... a few nerds with some spare time?

renewiltord
It doesn’t matter. A straightforward example is that no matter how much UX you do, you can’t offer a listing that the creator sold exclusively to someone else.

But fortunately, with AI content starting to become better we will be able to transform regular people into IP maximalists arguing that copyright protection schemes should be embedded even more than they are today.

Regarding archive.is:

I use it too, but people work hard writing articles. How will they earn money if no one pays them?

renewiltord
Yeah it’s a classic tragedy of the commons. Any individual gains from piracy. C’est la vie. As HNers are proud to say: Your business model is not my problem.
Timshel
To create a moat and make Kobo and others less interesting.
yesco
To stop you from pirating ofc!

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