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epsilonic parent
What signals make you so certain that we are in another civil war? Just curious.
jfengel
The invasion of the Capitol, to overturn an election that they claim was fraudulent, followed by the pardoning of the invaders, is kind of a doozy. It suggests that one side or the other (or possibly both) is rejecting democracy and willing to use violence when they don't get the result they want. Not just the individuals involved, but the tens of millions who supported pardoning them.

Or alternatively, they were in fact correct, and tens of millions on the other side subverted democracy, at least temporarily (and would surely do so again if not prevented).

Either way, it sounds like you've millions of people each convinced that millions of others are about to start a civil war. Which sounds like it makes that war practically unavoidable.

20after4
The national guard rolling into multiple major US cities is serious warning sign.
pstuart
It's practice. Our next October surprise very well may be a false flag attack that will be the pretext for martial law.

10 years ago that would sound crazy but today it's very real. I wish very much to be wrong in my prediction.

20after4
Yeah, doesn't sound crazy (and it wouldn't have sounded crazy 10 years ago, at least not to my ear) and I'm afraid you are most likely correct.
nebula8804
The army and national guard had started preparing during the Obama years.

[1]:https://youtu.be/JEjU-X57Wrc?t=5815

It seems sometimes that they have mapped out how things are going to play out years in advance and are ready. After all what is the American government but just a group of fellow countrymen with all the data and resources?

20after4
yeah and the ones with the resources want to make sure they keep the resources and the rest of us get as little as possible.
shadowgovt
The military preemptively deployed to multiple US cities isn't a great sign.

Generally speaking, we don't deploy our military in peacetime. So unless there's a natural disaster in Chicago or D.C. right now, there aren't but so many conclusions to draw...

vharuck
My current (irrational?) fear is this:

1. Trump declared a Venezuelan gang as a terrorist organization.

2. Since then, Trump has ordered the military to conduct extrajudicial killings of people suspected of being in that gang who were on boats. He is implicitly asserting that military action is allowed without Congressional approval if the target is a terrorist organization (it probably isn't legal, and he's put out no justification for it).

3. He just declared Antifa a terrorist organization. He has a history of blaming things on Antifa and has mused about declaring other leftist organizations as terrorists.

Now connect 2 and 3.

pstuart
Well, the President of the Heritage Foundation (the ones behind Project 2025, which is the playbook they're following) has said: “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/03/heritage-...

They call it a revolution. They keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means.

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