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Icarus is flying high this time of year, it seems. Don't forget that some of these traditional business minds have seen the Soviet's planned economy crumble in real-time not too long ago. They may also have taken note how virtually all human-managed funds tend to do worse over time than market-driven index funds.

Make of that what you will; the arrogance of some people to assume they know better than anyone else sure is stunning.

dwarksidle OP
> Make of that what you will; the arrogance of some people to assume they know better than anyone else sure is stunning.

So you make this comment right after making a really reductive, ignorant comment on the Soviet planned economy collapse?

Yeah I'm 49. I was there. Watched Soviet Union fall on live TV. Berlin wall too. After years of intentional outside effort to force it to fall.

Market-driven has worked because media told everyone it has to work, and no other nations were strong enough to exert outside influence until modern China came along.

Tell everyone the Soviet economy must work without outside influence to collapse it, does it still collapse?

You're shipping propaganda of your culture.

9dev
Since you felt the need to contact me with additional insights via email, I don’t want to withhold these from the wider HN community:

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 8:15 AM Michael E—— <m@——.xyz> wrote: https://www.hackerneue.com/item?id=45027006

I was old enough to live through the fall. What your reductive ignorance excludes is years of intentional effort by the US and allies to collapse the Soviet Union, while they censored their own media to sell capitalism and markets, while also behaving as awful as Soviets and China around the world with their military.

> Make of that what you will; the arrogance of some people to assume they know better than anyone else sure is stunning.

Oh, we agree on this. You of course no better because it worked for you. Survivorship and selection bias. Still at the end of the day, one of billions with no real obligation on the rest of us to provide you healthcare or give a shit if you end up in the ditch, broke. I for one appreciate the America not making me give a shit you exist.

-- Michael E——

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 17:17 Michael E—— <m@——.xyz> wrote:

Without outside influence to collapse the Soviet union and Soviets maintaining control of their media telling their people their system must survive, does it still collapse?

Rhetorical question, idgaf you even exist, ignorant ass.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 18:31 Michael E—— <m@——.xyz> wrote:

Won't know/show up if you end up broke in an alley eating ass to survive.

That kind of not care.

Thoughts and prayers but you're one of billions of meat suits, statistically irrelevant.

-m

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 19:22 Michael E—— <m@——.xyz> wrote:

Aw blue language that does not venerate you.

Points remain valid.

-m

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convolvatron
I think it's time for the people shouting so urgently about the new world order to own up and actually paint a picture for the rest of us here. because from a 'traditionalist' perspective it really looks like things are just failing and being burned down. I don't see a phoenix, maybe you can you can point it out?

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