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  You don't own any of the machines but have "made" a comparison by copying data from the internet I assume.

  This is like explaining to someone who eats a sweet apple that the internet says the apple isn't sweet.
Yea, I never said he is wrong in his own experience. I was pointing out that the comparison is made between a base M4 and maxed out Ryzen. If we want to compare products in the same class, then use M4 Max.

  MacBook Pro, 2TB, 32gb, 3200 EUR
A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse. SSD prices are bad value on Apple products. No one is denying that.
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I didn't "max out" the SSD, I chose an SSD to match the machine of the user.

You: "You're comparing the base M4 to a full fat Strix Halo that costs nearly $4,000."

Then

You: "A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse."

aurareturn OP 

  I didn't "max out" the SSD, I chose an SSD to match the machine of the user.
Why don't you try to match in CPU speed, GPU speed, NPU speed, noise, battery life, etc? Why match SSD only?

That's why your post was disingenuous.

If it helps you focus on what the actual discussion, we are comparing maximum CPU and GPU speeds for the dollar. That's it.

KingOfCoders
Evo X2, 128gb, 2000 EUR

Max Studio, 128gb, 4400 EUR

aurareturn OP
Great. Here's what you're getting between an M4 Max vs an AMD AI 395+: https://imgur.com/a/yvpEpKF

And of course, the Mac Studio itself is a much more capable box with things like Thunderbolt5, more ports, quieter, etc.

I can see why some people would choose the AMD solution. It runs x86, works well with Linux, can play DirectX games natively, and is much cheaper.

Meanwhile, the M4 Max performs significantly better, more efficient, likely much more quiet, runs macOS, more ports, better build quality, Apple backing and support.

KingOfCoders
AMD 395+/ Cachyos MT Geekbench 6 25334 - not sure where you get your Geekbench number from for the 395+

You: "If it helps you focus on what the actual discussion, we are comparing maximum CPU and GPU speeds for the dollar."

You: "Mac Studio itself is a much more capable box with things like Thunderbolt5, more ports, quieter"

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