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Apple requires you to get a developer account with them.

Nowhere does that require you to go and get a DUNS number, which is onerous for a single developer to do without the infrastructure of a company.


andyferris
Never heard of DUNS. It seems to be a US company *Dun & Bradstreet) that provides business intelligence.

It seems kind of odd to me to rely on some kind of external hidden "credit agency"-style company for this? And why would DUNS want to know about some kid in their basement in Bangledesh making (non-malicious) apps, and why would the kid want Dun & Bradstreet to know about them? It makes no sense at all.

aerostable_slug
They're trying to control malware. Tying apps that may be malicious to an identity that takes some degree of cost and effort to establish seems sensible in that light.

It's not that the identity prevents malware/abuse, but publishing any malware to the store burns the identity and establishing another is harder than simply coming up with a new email address. It's not necessarily the best scheme out of there, but it makes sense given their apparent goal.

o11c (dead)
Dragon0
I've had a business get listed on DUNS; once you're on it, they resell your data forever.
cyanydeez
Yeah, basically this is the rise of computer-credit agencies.

Youc an see the zeitgeist forming around corporations wanting to lock out any small unlicensed company from working on phones.

The key is mostly fascism in the guise of "security". Witness stuff like the ICE tracker app. Google would love a way to freeze out both it's appearance on the app store and any developer who'd program similar.

hotstickyballs
It’s not just Apple, lots of federal programs in US require a DUNS number.
watersb
To be clear, Apple does not require a DUNS number for developer registration.
grumple
It does if you have an org account: https://developer.apple.com/programs/enroll/
llm_nerd
While the linked article notes that organizations require a DUNS number seemingly as an aside, personal accounts do not.

Which is exactly the same policy as Apple.

didibus
For me the difference is that Android is an open-source operating system. It sold itself and differentiated itself to users, developers and phone manufacturers as an open ecosystem built on open-source foundations.

Over the years, it seems Google has been trying to have their cake and eat it too, by basically subsuming others to use Android through this appeal of a more free and open operating system ecosystem, but have tried to slowly close and close it down now that it has won the other half of the market on that promise.

This feels more sly, because it's kind of a bait and switch. Apple never made such claim and was always upfront, so while I don't like it, I never bought into it in the first place for them to have the rug pulled under me after giving them my money as Google might be doing.

jonny_eh
> For me the difference is that Android is an open-source operating system

Google Play is not open source. You're still free to sideload on phone that use vanilla open-source android like the Fairphone.

tensor
FWIW I got a DUNS number through apple as a single developer for a corp. It was super easy. If you've already gone through the trouble of setting up a corp, getting the DUNS is trivial by comparison.
platevoltage
Yes. You gotta pay your 100 bucks, but I don't remember feeling like my privacy was being invaded when getting a developer account. I assume the best reason they have for this is that they can nuke the account, effectively killing the install base of an app is reported to be malicious. Unless someone tells me why I should, I don't have a huge issue with this.

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