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Yeah, open weights but with tons of limitations in the license. https://huggingface.co/xai-org/grok-2/blob/main/LICENSE
pxc
Maybe we should have a parallel designation for this like "weights available", because this license is quite restrictive and really not comparable to models with weights released under, e.g., Apache or MIT licenses.
riedel
What of those are unreasonable terms? Quickly looking into it, it seems mostly that it is restricted to legal use and the provider has to take some responsibility.
piperswe
Those limitations mean:

- Not open "source" because source isn't available

- Not "open" weights because there are restrictions on use

This model is weights-available. There's nothing open about it.

puilp0502
Doesn't this apply to most of the "open-weight" models like Llama and Gemma? I remember Llama also having some specific terms targeted at big boi players as well.
piperswe
Correct. There are just about zero open models out there.

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