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Pretty pessimistic frankly. Management at all levels pushing for nearshoring SWE labor, meanwhile we’re training AI as a long term solution to fill the skill gap in the same nearshore labor. We were hired to be smart people and it’s frankly an insult to gaslight us into believing that it’s simply because it makes us more productive. Of course there’s a push for it with the intent to replace us. Why else would it be forced down our throats?

I’m looking for a way out of tech because of it.

hn_throw2025
> Of course there’s a push for it with the intent to replace us. Why else would it be forced down our throats?

I still don’t see this, if only for the Managerial instinct for ass-covering.

If something really matters and a prod showstopper emerges, can those non-technical supervisory managers be completely, absolutely, 100% sure the AI can fix the code and bring everything back up? If not, the buck would surely stop with them and they would be utterly helpless in that situation. The Board waiting on conference call while they stare at a pageful of code that may as well be written in ancient Sumerian.

I can see developers taking a higher level role and using these tools, but I can’t really see managers interfacing directly with AI code generation. Unless they are completely risk tolerant, and you don’t get far up the greasy pole with those tendencies.

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Savvy management know how to insulate themselves from such accountability. I've never seen anyone held accountable for large-scale f-ups.
hn_throw2025
How, exactly? If a production showstopper needs to be worked on immediately.

If the development is between non-technical management and some AI tool they have been using, how do they insulate themselves from being accountable to their superiors? Who is responsible, and who gets to fix it?

SlightlyLeftPad OP
Directors at my company (large mid-tier tech) are being _asked_ to write AI code. Below that level, it’s a mandate and anyone who doesn’t ship regularly using AI will be pipped and fired. Don’t make me explain how it makes sense but that what we’re dealing with.
hn_throw2025
The scenario I was responding to is where developers are no longer employed because the managers interface directly with AI. It sounds like your company still has developers around.

If your company removes all developers and lets the managers vibe code instead, I’ll get the popcorn in for the next outage.

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