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These articles are a good reminder of a bittersweet truth: the US has an incredibly advanced and dense rail network, paid for with federal land grants[1]; we just choose not to use it to benefit travelers. That isn't to say that we need a system that's as good as most European countries have; having these railroad companies follow the laws around Amtrak's priority would be a good start[2].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_land_grants_in_the_Un...

[2]: https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/projects/dotcom/english/p...


> the US has an incredibly advanced and dense rail network, paid for with federal land grants

Note that only a small portion of the US rail network was built with land grants, about 18k miles out of ~250k miles in the peak of the US rail network. Also, most of the land-grant railroads are in the Western states, which is actually generally the least-dense portion of the rail network (in large part because the population density of that area is quite low--which is a large part of the reason for the land grants in the first place!).

That's true, but I'd argue that the land grants are what made it economically worthwhile to develop and maintain the denser parts of the network. You correctly observe that the network itself tracks with population density, but the value of the network is in its completeness: it wouldn't be nearly as valuable if there was a 1000 mile hole in it in the middle of the country.
I strongly disagree with that argument.

The main dichotomy in political geography you have in the US is the opposite sides of the Mississippi River. You do have a transitional zone in Illinois (which nowadays as migrated to Chicago), but to a coarse approximation, even the rail magnates of the Gilded Age are unable to build systems that truly cross the transitional zone. In the West, the big prize is connecting the ports on the West Coast with ultimately Chicago, with lesser prizes for feeder lines to bring the products to Chicago. One of the big purposes of the land grants, after all, is to encourage settlement of agricultural lands in the area.

But in the East, the prizes are connecting to the Northeast ports (or Chicago, or to a lesser degree, the other major cities in the Mississippi River). And most of these lines aren't affected by the existence of the Western US. The commercial center, say, an Ohioan is looking towards isn't San Francisco, it's New York City. Rip out the land grant system, and you wouldn't reduce the viability of all of the lines being added in Ohio; although the lines people are working in, say, Indian Territory, will suffer mightily. But the latter are already in the not-dense portion of the network, whereas the former are in the dense part of the network.

It's really not until the mid-20th century that the Pacific Coast takes on the commercial significance that it has nowadays, by which time the railroad trackage of the US is beginning to decline as consolidation takes place.

> Rip out the land grant system, and you wouldn't reduce the viability of all of the lines being added in Ohio; although the lines people are working in, say, Indian Territory, will suffer mightily. But the latter are already in the not-dense portion of the network, whereas the former are in the dense part of the network.

I wasn't just thinking of the far West; I mean also the Southwest. To take an example: I don't think the centralization of meatpacking in the Midwest would have happened to nearly the same degree without land grant-subsidized railroads through Texas, New Mexico, etc. Same for the Gulf Coast with refineries.

But also, I think you're understating the "why" of Chicago being the "big prize" for the West. It's because it opened up California's bread basket to the rest of the country, including the East Coast and European markets represented on the East Coast. The US didn't carry beef, corn, and wheat across the country just to dump it in Lake Michigan; it got carried to Chicago so that it could be sold to points beyond.

Period fiction played on this: Frank Norris never finished The Epic of the Wheat[1], but it was supposed to end in Europe's wheat markets, having started in the San Joaquin valley in the first book. Already in that book, from 1902, is the European market well established:

> “The result is over-production. We supply more than Europe can eat, and down go the prices. The remedy is NOT in the curtailing of our wheat areas, but in this, we MUST HAVE NEW MARKETS, GREATER MARKETS. For years we have been sending our wheat from East to West, from California to Europe. But the time will come when we must send it from West to East."

(Norris confusingly says "East to West" as in "Western Europe.")

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epic_of_the_Wheat

Fascinating comment thread here - thanks to you both!
Your local library probably has a copy of Nature’s Metropolis, a very well-written, information-dense book that captures much of the reason why it was Chicago rather than, say, St. Louis that became the important link in the railroad system. (In the mid 18th century France and the UK concluded a treaty that made the ‘Illinois Country’ off-limits to Europeans. It depopulated and most people moved to St. Louis. By the time Chicago was much more than an Army fort and a dozen houses, St. Louis was a 100-year old large city).
Incredibly advanced? Bullshit.

Among the G8 we probably have the least-electrified, slowest rail network with the worst Positive Train Control. Probably the most dangerous, too, given how disastrous Precision Railroad Scheduling has been for safety. We also likely have the highest crash and derailment rates.

This is a sad joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_train_control#Deploym...

ASES, ACSES, ETMS, CBTM, CBOSS, E-ATC, ITCS, and whatever Union Pacific is using. That's over half a dozen different systems and none of them are inherently compatible with each other - specialized systems are required to tie the systems together on railways that might have trains with different systems.

I'm guessing no other country in the G8 has issues with freight train movement such that trains routinely bisect towns and entire counties for hours or more and force police, fire, and medical services to reroute, as well as require children to crawl underneath the trains (which could start moving without warning) to get to/from school.

Why? Because the feds are not regulating train lengths nor mandating that trains cannot block road intersections for more than a certain amount of time, so the railways do whatever they please.

I'm guessing no other G8 country has problems with the government (federal, state, or local) having no idea what hazardous materials are being shipped and where...no way to look it up, not noticed by the railroad, nothing.

I grew up in a town of 20k that freight trains would park in the middle of. No one crawled under the train to get to school, you were just late.
It was also paid for by ripping the face of 19th century bondholders who went bust many, many times.
Europes rail network is far worse - but it appears better because you see passanger traffic and don't think what else. That and europe mostly can't see beyond national borders (there is a language barrier with most) and so they fail to create good eu wide rail of any sort.
Far worse in what sense? More tracks, sure the US rail network is about 1.5 times the size of the European network for the same landmass.

But then, I don't think quality wise I don't think you'd encounter a track like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2A2f6E5DI anywhere in Europe. Or the comparison of high speed tracks 9600km in Europe vs 70 km in the US.

The reason for this is obviously the completely different priorities US is freight, Europe is passenger. So I don't think you can really compare the two networks and say one is clearly better.

The European network is far more fragmented than it seems. There are differences in power supply, track width, station and tunnel width and signalling such that you cannot easily cross borders in a train. There are lots of trains that are equipped for multiple signalling standards and have variable axles. But in general, you can only go to the immediate neigbouring countries, as soon as you cross another border you have to change trains. In some countries, like France, you even have concurring standards within the same network. A hypothetical Lisbon-Moscow connection would need to change trains at least 2, maybe 3 times.

I don't think, therefore, that "total track length" has any useful meaning in Europe.

Here is some maps to illustrate my point:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_rail_electrif...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_gauge_in_Europe#/media/F...

Throwing in Moscow with Europe is a choice. Spain and Portugal are doing their own thing according to your rail gauge map, true, but there are many city pairs crossing multiple borders that are accessible nonstop, see the route map for the Austrian sleep railroad, nightjet.

https://www.nightjet.com/en/dam/jcr:6a8041cb-0131-4ad3-84fd-...

Yes. But if you look at the electricity system map, you'll see that those are mostly north-south connections through easy transitions. They skip the south of France, east of Poland. Some of those routes use different locomotives than all the others. And the number of border crossings is limited for that reason.
> track like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2A2f6E5DI

I can't believe that the train can actually travel down that track. If I had just come upon that track, there's no way I would have ever thought that it was still an operational track. I'm sure the engineers navigating that track have a lot of colorful opinions about it as well

There's a great video from 1944 of how much rail you have to knock out before derailing a train. Pretty humorous voice over too.

Train Wreck: Experiments To Derail Trains

https://youtu.be/Xplxx0Fc4ew

that VO sounds much more modern than the footage. I was hoping for authentic 1940s voice over like from Newsreel type of footage.
While certainly suboptimal track, much of that seems to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion due to extreme telezooming.
picking a worst example isn't inditative of the state of things. The us uses our rail a lot more for freight traffic.
I meant specifically from the perspective of passenger rail, yes. I don't doubt that the US has significantly better freight rail.

(I've crossed borders several times on European trains, and it was never a problem. By contrast, crossing the US-Canada border by train is an exercise in boredom and frustration.)

Notably most of the BN part of BNSF was not built with land grants.
> we just choose not to use it to benefit travelers

The Northeast Corridor is the only viable rail corridor in the US. It could be better, but we absolutely use it. Comparing the US to Europe is a mistake because cities aren't dense enough and are too far apart for European style rail to work.

There's also the fact that American towns aren't dense and are poorly walkable. I'd love to be able to catch a train to the next town over, but once I get there I'd have to walk at least a mile or two to get where I want to go. Not that big a deal for me if the weather was nice and I wasn't in a hurry, but I couldn't rely on that for commuting and I couldn't do it at all if I had a disability.

In cities big enough for a bus service it'd be all right, but you don't usually see that until you get 100k or so people.

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