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Can you offer some examples from this ruling? It seems pretty reasonable on a first read.

Judge decided having an output filter on your AI makes it ok for it to contain full copy of copyrighted work.

Its like saying it should be legal for me to have this Judges nudes obtained 100% illegally as long as I pixelate all the naughty bits.

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Full ruling is here (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.43...)

The analogy the judge gives is to how Google Books walked the tightrope on copyright: they maintain an archive of all the books for indexing and search purposes, and can display excerpts to help you confirm that's what you're looking for. The excerpts are constrained so you can't read the whole book by scanning the excerpts.

If post-filtering the LLM signal is illegal, shouldn't Google Books archive also be illegal? If not, why not?

And if you believe it should be, understand that the way precedent works, the judge won't be ruling that way without pulling some fire on themselves, because it is not the business of another case to contradict the conclusions of a previous court in a previous case. Copyright law is arbitrary and highly path-dependent because the underlying goal is forever in tension with itself, that goal being providing societal benefit by creating artificial scarcity on something that is, by its nature, not scarce at all.

(Worth noting: Anthropic didn't get off scot-free. The ruling was that the created artifact, the LLM, was a fair-use product, but the way it was created was through massive piracy and Anthropic is liable for that copying).

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