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You seem to be taking about some kind of free will and perfect independence, not autonomy as normally understood. Agents can have autonomy within the environment they have access to. We talk about autonomous vehicles for example, where we want them to still stay within some action boundaries. Otherwise we'd be discussing metaphysics. It's not like we can cross physical/body boundaries just because we've got autonomy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_robot

> An autonomous robot is a robot that acts without recourse to human control. Historic examples include space probes. Modern examples include self-driving vacuums and cars.

The same idea is used for agents - they're autonomous because they independently choose actions with a specific or vague goal.

cess11
I don't see the relevance of things that carry their own power supply either, and I still disagree that Conway automata and similar software exhibit autonomy.

I did not mention "free will and perfect independence".

viraptor OP
You also carry your own power supply...

I could go into more details, but basically you tried to call out some weird use of "autonomous" when I'm using the meaning that's an industry standard. If you mean something else, you'll need to define it. Saying you can't be autonomous under someone's rules brings a serious number of issues to address, before you get to anything AI related.

cess11
Well, I disagree that computers exhibit intelligence and according to "industry standard" they do so in my view that does not carry any weight on its own.

Autonomy implies self-governance, not just any form of automaton.

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