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bubblyworld parent
I think it would turn off, no shocker there. I'm not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?

When I say autonomous I don't mean some high-falutin philosophical concept, I just mean it does stuff on it's own.


cess11
Right, but it doesn't. It stops once you stop forcing it to do stuff.
bubblyworld OP
I still don't understand your point, sorry. If it's a semantic nitpick about the meaning of "autonomous", I'm not interested - I've made my definition quite clear, and it has nothing to do with when agents stop doing things or what happens when they get turned off.
cess11
I think you should start caring about the meaning of words.
mystified5016
You're the one using words incorrectly. Everybody else agrees on what these words mean and you're insisting on your own made-up definitions. And then you throw a fit like a child when someone disagrees.

You're wrong and you're behaving inappropriately.

cess11
No, I did not. It appears I'm rather alone in this setting to make a difference between automatic and autonomous.

If immediate, direct dependence and autonomy are compatible, I want none of it.

bubblyworld OP
I do, when I think it's relevant. Words don't have an absolute meaning - I've presented mine.
viraptor
Because that's what they're created to do. You can make a system which runs continuously. It's not a tech limitation, just how we preferred things to work so far.
cess11
Maybe, but that's not the case here so it is lost on me why you bring it up.
viraptor
You're making claims about those systems not being autonomous. When we want to, we create them to be autonomous. It's got nothing to do with agency or survival instincts. Experiments like that have been done for years now - for example https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/10/researchers-populated-a-ti...
cess11
Yes, because they aren't. Against your fantasy that some might be brought into existence sometime in the future I present my own fantasy that there won't be.

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