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wewewedxfgdf parent
This is bad advice.

Employers expect you to have a target salary. If you hold out with "you tell me first" then they'll just not proceed.

Not saying your target salary does not get you the highest salary.


mberning
I agree. You should do your best to know what a realistic comp profile is for the role you are applying for BEFORE you apply. This is much easier nowadays with all the information available online. Assuming you know the rough range for the position you can simply ask for the high end of the range. I recommend even asking for 5-10% above the top of range. They may balk. They may try to sniff around what your current comp is. How Machiavellian you want to get at that point is up to you. In my experience companies generally don't blink at high base compensation as long as it is close to their defined range. If you are asking for a big signing bonus or for the hiring company to cover the bonus you would miss out on by leaving, or for them to cover your retention agreement, then they may ask for some evidence of that.
pie_flavor
This is false information. They present as expecting you to tell them first so that they have a chance to screw you, and will never let you know if you name a number lower than what they would have offered. Every single thing in the post is something employers know, and are hoping you don't know; guessing 'well this seems weird so I won't do it' is essentially deliberately making a mistake, for all the reasons outlined in the article.
wewewedxfgdf OP
It's sad to see people with a baseline assumption that employers want to screw you.

My experience is they want a fair deal for all.

Of course there are exceptions but broadly it is true.

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