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This stuff seems to keep happening and the problem seems to be that it is ungovernable. How is someone supposed to fight this if they are not half as famous as Cliff?
Look for other suppliers. For everything I'm interested in I can find some small shop that has real reviews and advice. it takes a little effort to find them but they know their product and so it is worth finding them-
I do mostly but off Amazon but that doesn't mean I don't understand that until more people do this these brands still have to be on amazon. You're kinda missing the point
My prime subscription expires this week. Perhaps the correct response to this systemic incompetence is to simply no longer give them money.
Fame, alas, is of little use when you're a tiny seller. Indeed, Amazon's brand registry and seller interaction systems are built to minimize human interactions.
Take them to small claims court for each violation.
That's the "This is the hill I die on" approach. From all the lawyers (family) I've talked to, this is such a massively large money and time sink, regardless of outcome, that you should never do it, even if it means fraud goes unchecked.
Even small claims?
I took a business to small claims over a $1500 invoice they decided they weren't going to pay. It took a year before I was in court, the judge decided in my favor, and I had to schedule a sheriff's sale because the bully I was dealing with refused to acknowledge that they lost.
I did get paid in the end, and there was the satisfaction of sticking it to a bully, but financially, it was not worth the effort.
Using your infinite time and money for legal representation to run a large number of legal cases in parallel?
Time and money, sure. But small claims in many (most? all?) regions are specifically designed to not require a lawyer. I think in some you specifically can’t bring one.
Ianal, but afaik small claims are for purely money claims. I.e. you have to prove to judge/jury exact amount of your loss. It works well in case of fighting over debt. But more abstract damages are likely outside courts jurisdiction...
On the other hand... It is cheap to try and see what happens, as long as expectations are right.
I don't remember why I looked this up in Washington state, USA a while back (bad work by a plumber, I think) but here in WA I think there's also a rule/law that you can only take individuals to small claims court.
There's also a dollar limit ($4,000? Maybe 15 years ago?).
But yeah, by law you can't drag companies into small claims court. It's meant to settle minor things like your neighbor accidentally backing into (and damaging) your fence, etc.
Take who to small claims court? Amazon?
Yes. They no-show and you get a default judgement.
I’m not sure it’s wise to fuck with the legal department of a trillion dollar company even if you’re in the right.
"Don't fight back when we fuck you or we'll ruin you".
The bigger the company, the heavier the penalties for fuckery should be. They should be the ones to live in fear, not the "little people".
Bezos is thankfully not Elon, he won’t seek vengeance on you for literal nickels and dimes.
Small claims is such a huge headache, though. It's far more expensive for anyone person than the company.