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Distracting yourself from distractions by building an overly complex system to help you do that, and writing an article about it, is certainly a very HN-ish thing to do.

elric
Modern problems require modern solutions.

But on a more serious note, distraction and focus are difficult topics. When I'm highly motivated, I'm utterly indistractible. When I have to do boring toil, absolutely anything & everything can distract me.

sigbottle
For me, the issue is, I always know that once I actually get into it it will be fine, but getting started even for that day is a toil.

For all my progress up there both intellectually and as a person, I'm still someone who will just sit in bed for 1 hour before work and watch brainrot instead of getting up and getting ready for work. Or sit in bed reading reddit for a few hours on a weekend before making myself breakfast.

Once I get into it, it's fine, but the thought of spending ~30-45 minutes getting up and properly starting the day is enough to make me procrastinate hours away :(

Cthulhu_
The "problem" is self-regulation, vs having someone else - a parent, a boss with a clipboard and your clock-in thingy, a military commander, etc - tell you what to do when. Self-discipline is hard and requires willpower, and I've always been of the opinion that willpower is a resource, but someone else telling you what to do when doesn't cost as much willpower as motivating yourself.

Blue collar work is better in that regard; you clock in every day at the same time, do a job that doesn't involve computers, often optimized for output so you don't have many lulls of activity, take breaks when the bell goes, and clock out and shut work off completely once you're done.

Meanwhile IT white collar work, especially WFH, requires a lot more self-direction, and since for most people in IT their entertainment is also digital, the boundary blurs by a lot.

Part of me wants a blue collar job.

denim_vampire
Completely agree. I worked in a factory for a while, and while it was worse in many ways than my current tech job, it was so much easier to just show up and do the work.
avgDev
I also worked at a factory before transitioning to programming, and can relate to everything you have said.

My research resulted in me getting an ADHD diagnosis. My brain is screwed up. It just has a weird relationship with dopamine and motivation.

Not sure if this would work for you but a low dose Adderall really helps me focus and feel good doing "slower" tasks like work. I would certainly speak to a physician if you haven't already.

I have a child, who is brilliant, and performing great at school but he is already presenting similar symptoms as myself, hopefully I can help him set healthy limits and cope without meds.

frereubu
I have recently discovered that hardcore punk (like the album Feel The Darkness by Poison Idea) played at high volume in some headphones really helps me when I have to do those kinds of tasks. My hunch is that is translates my ennui into cathartic anger that I have to do this studpid f__king task, which generates motivation to show it who's boss and I plough through it. YMMV obviously - relies on you enjoying hardcore punk!
SketchySeaBeast
I call it giving the boredom monkey something to do. As long as he's in the corner enthusiastically banging his little drum I can get stuff done.
BrandoElFollito
I code for fun and when I have an idea it is difficult for me to start.

The weird thing is that this is for fun, I have no pressure but still need some time to just start. Once I started I can go for a line time.

drvhali
Hyperfocus is a defining trait of some types of ADHD and Autism spectrum.

But, don’t discount addiction in-general. Social media, internet use, and gaming are some of the things that can provide quick dopamine hits, which is the problem being addressed here.

Adding a button to turn it off for a short-time is like heating just a tiny spoon of heroin and injecting it. No AA sponsor should ever say, “Yeah, it’s ok to dip your tongue in that whiskey.” That’s nonsense.

anal_reactor
Why aren't you motivated then? Is it because you're aware that most of your work is utterly pointless?
cainxinth
We want technological solutions to problems created by technology, and structured approaches to recovering from over-structuring our lives.
AdieuToLogic
There is a word for those who believe they cannot live without something, go to whatever means necessary in order to obtain it, even knowing it is harmful, only to find what was once thought an escape is now a prison.
remuskaos
We prefer the term 'addict', thank you very much.
AdieuToLogic
> We prefer the term 'addict', thank you very much.

It would appear my innuendo was appropriately stated then.

xattt
Is there a difference between addiction and compulsion?
BrenBarn
More flour more water. More water more flour.
fud101
More sugar, more salt.
lm28469
Hey that's what we do with climate change too! Just one more lanes guys, it's going to solve everything I promise
arcanemachiner
Ted Kaczynski would be proud.
_Algernon_
If you identify a problem behavior then putting extrinsic constraints to manage that behavior seems like a reasonable thing to do. This comment reads like disparaging an ex-smoker for not still walking around with cigarettes in their pocket.
conductr
I read the article as if it was written by a smoker, that wanted to quit so badly, he engineered a complex machine that would only dispense him a cigarette on a defined and spaced out schedule. Thereby, not quitting at all.
gerdesj
It is possible that OP has made some parts of the story up or at least sexed it up a bit to jibe with the HN mindset (whatever that is).

I found the article refreshingly short and to the point whilst being jolly amusing and informative. The bloke is German so English is a second language - very good skills.

That's a skilled technical writer, that is.

Bookmarked. More please!

remuskaos
Thank you, I really appreciate this!

Alas, none of it is made up - honestly. My wife and I kept finding ourselves in the garden on a beautiful day scrolling reddit and instagram for up to an hour, on several occasions. We kind of know we're wasting our time, and we kind of want to, too. It's kind of a constant struggle of uber-me against animal-me and I really hope this moderation tool works how I image it.

After I read Neils post I've completed the entire setup - including blog post - in maybe three hours. So if this keeps me from doom scrolling for an hour at least three times, I've gained some time back.

dirkc
Distracting yourself by reading and commenting about someone distracting themselves from distractions by building an overly complex system is the ultimate HN thing to do ;P
I love it though!! These kinds of projects are fun to do and attack a real life use case for the creator. I bet he and his girlfriend get good use out of it. If my roommate wasn't so insistent on unfettered access to internet, I'd try to do similar DNS filtering for our apartment.
nsgi
Sometimes this is the distraction you need - building something just for the sake of it can be oddly grounding
illiac786
Much simpler is using nextDNS as ad filter.

But, even AdGuard isn’t that complex, I think it’s a one time distraction with some maintenance, compared to endless ads eating away at your brain, hours after hours. Worth it I say =)

smileysteve
Especially when nextdns has a free tier.

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