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or that i'll be working with people who also appreciate a culture where your salary is not based on your negotiation skills, and you don't have to worry about making less than someone doing the same job as you simply because you were less convincing or had less leverage when you joined.

Why would you think that just because nobody negotiated, somehow everyone doing the same job will be making the same amount? In reality, they will all be making the lowest amount the hiring manager was comfortable offering at the time.

You are confusing lack of negotiation with transparent compensation, which is extremely rare in the US (outside the government).

zem OP
> Why would you think that just because nobody negotiated, somehow everyone doing the same job will be making the same amount?

well, at least from personal experience, I'm talking about the kind of company that explicitly says "we want to make you an offer as a software engineer, at such and such level, and this is the fixed salary for that job+level". they could have been lying of course, but once you start going down that rabbit hole you might as well not take the offer.

Based on my 35 years of hiring and being hired in the tech industry, that kind of company is also extremely rare.
zem OP
for sure, which is why I appreciate them all the more when I encounter them! I wish more of the industry operated that way.
esseph
Seems like a fight against reality
heylook
There are plenty of places where this is the standard.

Anecdote time: I joined a not-quite-FAANG in an acquihire. Some of my teammates negotiated hard on the way in; I did not. After I got into management, I learned that they're perfectly willing to give you an extra $10k on your initial salary offer, but then you just get a lower raise after the first year, so everyone ends up in the same spot almost immediately anyway. The $10k was a rounding error in the total comp, and anyway they preferred to have steady employees who could be happy in a good situation for many years, rather than mercenaries who were more likely to chase vanity metrics and leave half-finished projects when they left in 18 months. Equity comp was generous and non-negotiable.

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