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akersten parent
In my experience, Samsung is a label that means "stay far, far away." From the Galaxy Note fiasco to my microwave to my dishwasher to ... Probably at least three other products before I learned my lesson.

I even refuse to buy QD-OLED monitors out of indignation that Samsung makes the panels. Maybe I'm alone but maybe one day we'll boycott lousy companies out of business.

anonymars
In favor of what? The Android ecosystem is pretty lousy. Which manufacturers allow you to easily migrate to a new phone (Samsung has Smart Switch) and have, let's say, 4+ years of security updates?

Genuine question.

In my case I also wanted an SD card slot so it was slim slim pickings indeed. (And still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress!)

Thorrez
>Which manufacturers allow you to easily migrate to a new phone (Samsung has Smart Switch) and have, let's say, 4+ years of security updates?

Pixel phones get 7 years of OS and security updates. Do you consider Pixel phones to allow you to easily migrate to a new phone?

Disclosure: I work at Google, but not on Android or Pixel.

throw123xz
Going from a phone with a Snapdragon SoC to a Pixel with the Tensor SoC was a big downgrade for me. It gets hotter quicker when doing more demanding tasks, battery drains faster if network conditions are not perfect, etc.

We've been having some warm weather (~30ºC) around here and the other day my Pixel 8 Pro started warning me about the phone being too hot when I tried to record a video.

I like Google's Android skin and their long support periods, but Tensor holds these newer Pixels back.

fud101
Pixel phones have been awful hardware since the 5. So there is that. The tensor chip is a dud and can't be fixed. I'm done with Samsung for good after my current phone which I bought a few months ago. I'll probably replace it with an Oppo or something again, never going back to Samsung.
amlib
Pixel phones are available in very few regions, Samsung is available virtually anywhere.
npteljes
Pixel of course. And yeah the Androids suck mostly. Pixels suck too in some ways, for example, they are quite bulky, and heat up a bunch. But overall, by far the best Android experience in my opinion. No SD slot though.
acidburnNSA
No SD slot is a showstopper for many.
ryukoposting
LG back in the day. I miss my V20. What a weird, but wonderful phone.
gblargg
I'm still using a V20 as my main phone. The recent app icons at the extra top section of the screen really make juggling active apps fast. I don't think any phone has had this feature since.
ryukoposting
I loved the second screen. Does Spotify still work with it? That was a cool thing.
moooo99
I was an LG G3 user a long time ago. With the exception of the overheating issue, it was a lovely phone. LG really did have some unique devices
tock
I love the phones Nothing makes. And they are offering five years of Android updates and seven years of security upgrades on their upcoming Nothing phone 3.
mellow-lake-day
All the nothing phones are too big. Give me something the size of the s25.
msgodel
Get a UMPC with a modem card, put Linux on it, use jmp.chat to do all your carrier value add over IP.
danparsonson
Great SSDs though, generally speaking
blacksmith_tb
I have a Samsung clothes washer and a drier, they've been solid (but they aren't net-enabled... luckily).
makeitdouble
> Galaxy Note fiasco

Has any smartphone maker succeeded in getting more than a few percent of market share, released more that 2 phones while being immune to that level of fiasco ?

Zak
Yes. I have never been asked "do you have any weapons, explosives or [phone model]?" before boarding an airplane about any other phone, ever.

There have been other phones that had very occasional battery fires, but nothing on remotely the same level.

makeitdouble
On the other side Apple dealt with the BatteryGate of 2017 and Google paid back all remaining users of the Pixel 4a.

Each of these is also unique and unseen ever before for a phone.

brianbest101
It’s really hard to beat the “it’s a felony to knowingly carry our phones on to an airplane” level of fiasco
makeitdouble
Why does this become a competition where we're looking for a winner ?
Gigachad
Samsung phones have been filled with preinstalled spyware since the beginning. Outside of fairly unusable Linux phones, Apple seems to be the only one taking privacy seriously.
compootr
manufacturers aside, grapheneos and lineage work well because of Google's work on their phones
sitzkrieg
apple privacy is marketing but ok
int_19h
If it's mostly marketing, why was Facebook so up in arms about forced opt-in for tracking in iOS?
Grimeton
Because Apple blocks everybody else from spying on you but Apple themselves are still perfectly spying on you. And not just that, by disallowing all other apps to get their hands on your data you even tell Apple which data it can sell for a higher price because it's only available via Apple and noons else...

Let that sink in.

joshstrange
Let what sink in? Your completely unprovable/unproven conspiracy theory?

You are suggesting that Apple is actively tracking you in other apps (apps that aren’t allowed to track you themselves). I find that completely preposterous and a huge risk for Apple to take given their marketing.

> Because Apple blocks everybody else from spying on you but Apple themselves are still perfectly spying on you.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Specifically Apple spying on users and collecting info tied to their identities in 3rd party apps.

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newdee
All marketing? None of it is real? Citation?

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