> I can respect that. But reading and writing code, and discussing code with your colleagues, are pretty essential tasks to software development. If you don't enjoy either, then you probably would not enjoy working in the industry.
I've enjoyed all my time in the software industry, especially compared to other professions I did before, like strawberry-picking, or roof-snow removal, or elder-case. It's easily the most relaxing job I've had, even when everything is on fire and you need to bring up production database again, it's so much better than most jobs out there. That the pay is just over-the-top compared to what most of us do, is just a plus.
> This is why I think that people who enjoy vibe coding today, are not, and will never become software engineers
I think I kind of agree with that, I see some people who have zero interest in understanding code, but they want to produce code somehow, today via LLMs/agents and yesterday via no-code platforms. I don't think they're interested in knowing programming, any parts of it, so they try to find workarounds.
What I was trying to say, is that there is maybe a group of developers, like myself, that sit somewhere in-between. If I can solve a problem by not using code, and the trade-offs are OK considering the context, then that's probably my ideal approach. I try to only use code when there is no way around it, or it's the best way.
But I agree that people who will just accept whatever an LLM gives you, are bound to end up in trouble in the future, regardless of improvements of the tooling/models, because spaghetti always sucks, no matter who writes/consumes it.
I've enjoyed all my time in the software industry, especially compared to other professions I did before, like strawberry-picking, or roof-snow removal, or elder-case. It's easily the most relaxing job I've had, even when everything is on fire and you need to bring up production database again, it's so much better than most jobs out there. That the pay is just over-the-top compared to what most of us do, is just a plus.
> This is why I think that people who enjoy vibe coding today, are not, and will never become software engineers
I think I kind of agree with that, I see some people who have zero interest in understanding code, but they want to produce code somehow, today via LLMs/agents and yesterday via no-code platforms. I don't think they're interested in knowing programming, any parts of it, so they try to find workarounds.
What I was trying to say, is that there is maybe a group of developers, like myself, that sit somewhere in-between. If I can solve a problem by not using code, and the trade-offs are OK considering the context, then that's probably my ideal approach. I try to only use code when there is no way around it, or it's the best way.
But I agree that people who will just accept whatever an LLM gives you, are bound to end up in trouble in the future, regardless of improvements of the tooling/models, because spaghetti always sucks, no matter who writes/consumes it.