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The hopeful side is that he is old, and most people voted him in because they did not like inflation and he promised he would bring prices down on day 1.
pjmlp
He might be old, but isn't alone, if authoritarianism isn't fought, others will carry on the work.
jfengel
Has anything changed their minds? Given the opportunity, would they vote for him again? Or his chosen successor?

His popularity has decreased somewhat, but given a choice between him and the opposition, I suspect that they would continue to do the same thing.

He may indeed pass but I'm not so sure that would change much.

lupusreal
Trump isn't running again and he has a notoriously poor track record of picking political allies so his "chosen successor" is DOA. After 2028 it will be normal uniparty American politics as usual, with the MAGA/MIGAs going the way of the Tea Party, absorbed and homogenized into the political machine.

The hyperbole about 2024 being the last election in American history will seem silly in retrospect to most, but those who really believe it now will for the most part never admit they got swept up in hysteria and will instead pat themselves on the backs and credit themselves for America narrowly avoiding disaster. A generation or two later, young people will just roll their eyes when their parents talk about any of it, one way or the other, like millennials did when their parents rambled on about Reagan or Nixon.

pjmlp
The hyperbole is based on history with similar events.

Being from 70's generation, with family that had to their encounters with PIDE/DGS, and took part on the liberation forces, I see the supposed hyperbole with different eyes.

Hopefully I am wrong.

kevin_thibedeau
The MAGAs are creating a lot of institutional rot at state and local level offices where they are out of the limelight and can continue doing damage after the felon is gone. It is impossible for a rational Republican to get on the ballot because they have to face primaries against the shameless narcissists who've been shown how to con their gullible members.
lupusreal
I really don't think it's all that different from Republicans in the past (particularly the two I named), both in the way they were perceived and received, and what they actually did. Felon and showman, wrecking government institutions, subverting democracy, etc etc.

When in doubt, bet on the status quo. When the status quo falters, bet on a return to the status quo.

specialist
How should one bet when not in doubt?
thehappypm
Oh no, there are tons of non-mag Republicans out there. They’re all over the place. Honestly, most of the Senate.
uncletammy
Citation needed
lupusreal
It came to me in a dream.
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engineer_22
There's a lot of reasons. From my perspective VP being a terrible candidate seems to be #1
jazzypants
Nah, the real problem was the old guy that promised to step down, then refused to do so until the last minute leaving us without the time to choose a real candidate.

Not to mention the fact that we refused to hold the person who tried to overthrow our government accountable for doing so.

bigfatkitten
> Not to mention the fact that we refused to hold the person who tried to overthrow our government accountable for doing so.

If the Germans had taken the same approach in 1945, the Nazis would’ve been back in power by 1950.

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