- https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-from-the-... - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-partners-unite-to-...
https://www.declassifieduk.org/bbc-chief-downplays-britains-...
The UK's media have also provided extremely slanted reporting.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/25/visitors-to-...
It's been genuinely shocking to see how many EU leaders are in lock step over this. Only Spain and Ireland have broken ranks and called Gaza what it is.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corb...
August 2022, after the invasion of Ukraine, calling for "peace" by stopping shipments of armaments to Ukraine, saying they won't solve anything. The useless communist party of France has the same rhetoric, as do the far right loonies here. Because letting Ukraine fall to the Russians will definitely get peace.
Anyone with that sort of opinion is either incredibly dumb, or paid by the Kremlin.
Labeling those with different views on Ukraine-Russia policy as putinists is the same phenomenon as Israel critics being labeled antisemites or pro-Hamas.
What peace deal was on the table for Ukraine in 2022? Surrender and let their population be brutalised by the Russians, their culture and language erased, their civilians and military tortured and raped? Great deal, I wonder why they didn't take it.
It has solved the immediate problem of limiting the Russian expanse and subsequently war crimes in Ukraine. It's literally the best that can be done right now, until Putin realises he can't win.
> Labeling those with different views on Ukraine-Russia policy as putinists is the same phenomenon as Israel critics being antisemites or pro-Palestine.
No, because both sides in the Israel/Palestine conflict both have good points and deficiencies. Both have a right to exist, and both have done terrible things to one another. There are nuances, and there can be a solution where both exist. But both need to take part of it.
In Ukraine, Russia is a genocidal regime invading its neighbour. Ukraine being forced to give up territory and concessions on army/NATO restrictions would just guarantee they'll be weaker for Russia to invade again in a few years. If you want peace, take it up with Putin. Preventing help getting to Ukraine to defend itself is serving Putin's interests and nothing more. The war stops the second Putin stops.
Moderation of threads has been done the same way for years on HN. The guidelines have been in place and essentially the same for many years, and it's been the same people upholding them for a long time too.
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This is not why your comment was flagged.
> accept you have a problem
Don’t write like this and you will receive fewer downvotes/flags.
> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
> strange moderation
The actions are not from site moderators; other users thought your comment violated one or more the guidelines so they flagged it.
UK is already almost as bad. But UKs political elite is maybe even more pro-Israel than USAs.