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King-Aaron parent
I'm impressed at both how quickly the United States is falling into blatant authoritarianism, and also at how many people seem to make excuses for it.

amazingamazing
This country enslaved blacks for hundreds of years, slaughtered the natives and put the Japanese into camps and nuked them twice.

It’s always been authoritarian for those that don’t look right

intended
This is too easy a criticism and the unhelpful form of cynicism.

America also made efforts to recognize that those events counted as screwups and failures of their own value systems, and struggled against the forces that allowed such situations to happen.

This isn’t to say they succeeded, or that these situations wouldn’t happen again.

Its to say that theres a difference between pushing against the current, and flowing with it.

defrost
Just as a heads up; the currents, for native americans, are flowing backwards at present:

  A member of Spirit Lake Nation was elected to North Dakota’s legislature for the first time last fall thanks to a redistricting lawsuit filed by Jackson-Street’s tribe, alongside the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa. The suit claimed that the districts drawn by North Dakota in 2021 violated the Voting Rights Act, and the tribes’ initial success in court triggered a new map and increased representation in 2024.

  But last month, a federal appeals court tossed out their victory and declared that only the federal government can sue over violations of the Voting Rights Act, a devastating blow to the ability of these tribes—and others in the region—to seek legal recourse. 
* https://boltsmag.org/voting-rights-act-natives-north-dakota/

* https://boltsmag.org/threats-to-voting-rights-act-section-2/

There are numerous other examples but an increased inability to complain about unfair and discrimmanatory voting practices highlights the present direction of 'progress'.

amazingamazing
What exactly did America do undo these? Jim Crow for blacks and segregation? Redlining? Mass deportations (they started before Trump)? Patriot act (which still exists in partial form today)?
Thuggery
That's pretty lame criticism considering many of those things were contemporary SOP for all countries. The USA remind abnormally libertarian despite this. Now it's getting abnormally authoritarian.
amazingamazing
These things were definitely not things all countries participated in…
Der_Einzige
Nukes were definitely justified. The Japanese almost succesfully coup'd their own emperor to force the fight to go on in spite of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABj%C5%8D_incident

They were fanatical and willing to fight to the last man.

energywut
Quickly? This has been the path we have been on for at least 30 years, probably longer. Plenty of folks have been calling this out for longer.

When you have two parties in control, and they are both staunchly pro-capital, anti-worker parties, one party will push conservative and the other will ensure "nothing fundamentally changes".

Obama, Biden, Bush, and Clinton all had parts to play in empowering the executive, normalizing political violence, demonizing and silencing the left (the actual left -- socialists, workers parties, anarchists, etc.), and ramping up the militarization of the police.

This isn't some sudden moment, it might be the first time it's affected people you know, but this has been happening for awhile now.

Herring
I think it's actually kind of a miracle it didn't happen earlier. This country has been all about getting rich since slavery. Concentration of economic power generally leads to concentration of political power (ie non-democracy). There are tons of pathways, eg lobbying, campaign finance, media ownership, threat of capital flight, regulatory capture, to name a few.
boroboro4
It didn’t happen earlier because before gilded age the US (among whites..) was actually quite good with equality, and then every time we were getting close the opposite force was taking over: once in the beginning of 20s century with worker rights / antitrust and once in 1930s with FDRs New Deal. Interestingly both times things were getting quite good afterwards for the people.

Not sure it’s gonna happen time though.

energywut
I think too many people are too enamored with their "team" to really dig into the policy proposals of presidents and senators. Like, for so many people being a Democrat is purely about being Not A Republican (or vice versa).

I want more people out here who are willing to vote (or withold their vote) for a candidate based on the policy positions. This "Vote Blue No Matter Who" (or whatever the Republican equivalent is) mindset leads to candidates who don't have to hold coherent positions or perform their duties. They simply need to not be the other guy.

While being "not the other guy" they will get courted by capital interests, because they need that money to run their campaigns. It's really not hard to connect the dots between these politicians and the donors who buy them and mysteriously get policies that make regulatory capture and capital concentration easier. It's not even conspiratorial -- it's pretty much out in the open these days.

I'm so tired of hearing, "But not the democrats" or "but not the republicans" -- my friends, stop treating the people you vote for like part of your identity. Expect more from the people who represent you, be harshly critical of your own party to help it grow.

Don't forget, it's not unique to the US either.

In 1985, France launched a terrorist attack against a protest in New Zealand.

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