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throw0101d
Depending on the features you need, you can probably pick up an M1/M2 for a decent price nowadays that could work well enough:

* https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/overvie...

e12e
No external display support under Linux.
whitehexagon
I have a 4k display plugged into my Asahi M1 (hdmi port).
e12e
Your MacBook air m1?

Or a mini?

> it’s really hard not to just buy a MacBook Air at this price level.

MangoToupe
Works fine for me. How else do you think the studios/minis run it?
e12e
Huh, when did this happen? I thought external display was still not supported on MacBook air m1s?

Ed: according to

https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m1/#soc...

MacBook air still have no external display support?

MangoToupe
I imagine this is actually a usb-c issue rather than straight-up no display support
e12e
So, you are not running Linux on a MacBook air m1, I take it - when you say it works fine for you?
weird_trousers
Sorry but this is not a real value for certain people.
nrp
We saw that there was a gap in the market for laptops that treat Linux as a first-class OS target, and we design our products with that audience in mind. That there are other people in the world who don't need Linux is totally ok.
AgentElement
First-class Linux support is the reason that half the regulars in my local Linux Users Group have Frameworks. It's probably the most common laptop brand I see in my tech circle, and anecdotally I can say that it has eclipsed thinkpads in my specific community.
bobthecowboy
My kid is a bit young, but this is the laptop he'll be getting in a year or so to replace the garbage Chromebook he's currently using (which has steadily gotten flakier since purchase).

First class Linux support is requirement #1; Framework's repairability on top of that means there's not even anything else to consider. It will be the third Framework in our house. My wife is happily using the second, having easily switched to Ubuntu from Windows 10(?) when the video cable connection in her Dell XPS flaked out and made the screen useless.

rrix2
thanks nirav :) looking forward to my sage 12 for linux-based couch surfing
MangoToupe
I mean certain people still run wordperfect. You're never going to attract everyone.
dale_huevo
The market doesn't profitably support running desktop Linux on a laptop outside of a business/development setting, in which case it's the IT department buying the laptop and I don't get to choose. Which means "this Dell or this Thinkpad". Chromebooks don't count because they are just Google data-hoovering appliances not real laptops.

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