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lesuorac
You simply can't arrest people without cause.

Generally that cause is a warrant.

docdeek
Not American but are law enforcement required to present the warrant to a person who is not the individual named in the warrant? It would make sense to present it to their attorney but this gentleman seems like a third party.
user3939382
You don’t have to physically produce the warrant as long as it’s been issued.
skeledrew
But there's no way for the one affected to know one was issued unless it's produced.
user3939382
Correct, the law requires you to trust law enforcement.
morkalork
Sort of crazy that questioning the existence of something that may not exist, when there isn't physical evidence of it existing, can get you detained. Wait a second, I think we've seen that before...
Juliate
Factually and obviously false.
blindriver OP
It takes a simple google to figure out that you are incorrect. If an arrest warrant exists, police need to produce an arrest warrant as soon as possible but not at time of arrest.
Juliate
How does the police _justify_ the arrest then, to the ones being arrested, their family, and to their counsel?

How do those know what happens next, and where?

You know, basic questions, even more critical in a democracy.

You cannot force a citizen without a legal reason to do so. If you don't have a warrant (or a legitimate reason at the time of arrest), you're legally naked.

user3939382
There’s a lot in the law that won’t be necessarily obvious or intuitive to you, that doesn’t mean you should assume you know what you’re talking about. Go ahead and look it up rather than commenting about something you don’t understand.
Juliate
The 4th amendment reads easy enough to me. Yet, I understand that case law might be debatable. And that deep political forces are at play.

Still, a state were police can operate (out of probable cause) without judicial support is just a police state.

kelnos
Warrants are fairly uncommon when it comes to arrests.
blindriver OP
He was clearly obstructing justice. Whether or not he will formally get charged, who knows, but it's more than enough to detain him to stop him from interfering with the arrest by ICE of the person.

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