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This is essentially a no-op measure. There is already no enforcement against drinking in public anywhere in SF
noop415
The problem with no-enforcement is that it allows selective enforcement. In NYC, if you are on Wall St and use hard-drugs, there is no enforcement. Yet with stop-and-frisk and entire generation of colored individuals in poorer neighborhoods got random stopped, frisked, and booked with criminal history for "possession" offenses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_Cit...

If it is really no-enforcement, best to codify it with a law and really make it legal.

sitkack
Selective enforcement is biggest enabler of rights erosion. Esp when non-enforced groups permit these laws to stand on the books.
ketzo
“No enforcement” means people who don’t care about breaking rules will do it in brown bags

“Officially allowed and advertised” means businesses will specifically cater to people with money who will come specifically to do it

noop415
The problem with no-enforcement is that it allows selective enforcement. In NYC, if you are on Wall St and use hard-drugs, there is no enforcement. Yet with stop-and-frisk and entire generation of colored individuals in poorer neighborhoods got random stopped, frisked, and booked with criminal history for "possession" offenses.

If it is really no-enforcement, best to codify it with a law and really make it legal.

6510
The law needs tree shaking, if code is never executed it shouldn't be there.
kjkjadksj
It is executed though for people who are abusing the grace of the law. Throw a rager in the park and you will get a talking to. Drink with a couple people and not be disruptive and you won’t. How would you formalize that into law though?
6510
I thought about that puzzle quite a bit. The edge cases can get quite lame.

The only answer I've found is that one should define the rules strictly enough for people to make sense of them in advance. They should either be easy to find in context or be few enough to learn.

The obligations seem:

1) Document the issue at hand accurately and keep it up to date.

2) Write out the laws in a strict way that leaves as little room for interpretation as possible and keep it up to date.

3) Make sure those affected know what the laws are wasting as little of their time, money and effort as possible.

We seem surprisingly incompetent at 3. We should also be able to make the variables dynamic so that the thing updates it self.

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