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Ignorance is not a “dick move”, it’s having something to learn.

The extreme sleep deprivation doesn’t really conflict with the author’s point that better UI could have avoided this. Better sleep could have too.


Certainly true but I think he is saying that the author should have indicated his limited knowledge of the context of the collision early on in the article.
Yes, I'm being overly uncharitable, but it takes very inept research to study Mccain accident and not be exposed to the other 3 accidents, or be generally aware of the state of 7th fleet / condition of sailors from any of the reports. 4 major accidents do not happen in that specific fleet (out of 7) because of UXUI, when the other 6 fleets operate the same ships. Extra side eye of commentary/conclusion reducing cripplingly bad culture around sleep to "drowsiness" because elevating UXUI / blaming checkbox works less well when operators are mentally not there. You don't UXUI truckers so they can drive safely on a few hours of sleep, you regulate how long they can drive to make sure they get enough sleep.
> UXUI truckers so they can drive safely on a few hours of sleep

I think truckers have significant UXUI AND regulation on how long they can drive.

The Author does a good job oh highlighting the issues around UXUI that have not been analysed enough anywhere else and also raises the other issues which have been reported on.

> "first and only public source of real design criticism"

> "Add inexperience, insufficient training, and lack of sleep to the situation and you have a recipe for disaster"

In the 3rd paragraph (of which the preceding 2 were very short) ...

"Before going any further, I want to make it clear that I am just a civilian piecing together this story from whatever information I can glean from the internet."

Having read some great articles on the spate of pacific fleet collisions contemporaneous with the McCain incident, this is when I stopped reading this pointless article.
And I came to that comment page to say: "I really want to memorize all that hilarious design problems" - like eg. physical steering wheel not working and then suddenly turns itself into a exactly wrong direction... You know for https://xkcd.com/742/ purposes.

But then I read few comments on navy systemic sleep depravation...

And how air force solved this 60-70 years ago.

And how some peoples says UX problem is not a problem becouse sleep is a problem (and there are contemposomething evidences of other problems) and obviously two or more of them can't compound simultaneously ! /s

Just want to add: if there is so basic problem with working conditions then there obviously are much more human (and not only) problems in that navy force. Seems quite identical to what Russia is demonstrating in last years and in case of conflict results will be identical - a lot of lost american lives for stupid reasons. Just pointing obviousness.

The author isn't an expert on anything Naval. He's clearly a design guy, and his analysis ok in that respect.

7th Fleet's issues are well known, but not necessarily outside the community of those of us who lived them.

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