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What an unbelievably childish response. What does the New York Times have to do with this ad? What makes you think the New York Times is representative of the "average liberal arts pursuit"? Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry? Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"?
elevatedastalt
Wow. So the parent comment made exactly the same stupid generalization in the opposite direction, and it was all ok, but show a mirror to it and suddenly you get upset?

> Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry?

Yes

> Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"?

Not in real life among friends, but it's definitely a culture war flame that was started and is stoked by media.

dogman144
There’s nothing generalized about decades long economic destruction of the creative arts and similar industries in exchange for streaming platforms, instagram, “news”via social media and now AI. But hey RSUs in tech are great, get over it NYT readers!
hot_gril
> Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"?

Yes. It was obvious in college that the non-STEM majors didn't like the STEM majors or vice versa, but it was more strongly in one direction.

abvdasker OP
As someone who double majored in English and Computer Science this is one of the silliest grievances I've ever heard. For grown adults to still be embittered because of a real or imagined college rivalry seems very petty to me, and frankly unrelated to the issue of whether this Apple ad was distasteful.
dogman144
I think they’re embittered bc of having lib arts livelihoods shredded by technology and being told it’s a good thing and progress by engineers reinventing the wheel and causing more negative externalities on top of that, and then the cycle begins again. STEM keeps winning, everyone else loses, and STEM gets congratulated, empowered and funded for it.
elevatedastalt
It's true that they got disrupted, but tech also led to more democratization of the news / arts, which obviously entrenched players are not too fond of.

Also, the same embittered liberal arts majors had no problem telling rust belt coal miners that it was a good thing their livelihoods were being shredded.

If you fail to see that there's a massive culture war element to this, I have nothing more to say.

hot_gril
I'm not bitter about it, it's just that college was the last time I was interacting a lot with people not in STEM fields. All my friends went into technical fields for some reason, even if they started off somewhere else. Nowadays I occasionally get "Where do you work? Oh that company? I hate that company."
the_overseer
What a sad existence to only be among STEM people... Ever wondered if you might be the problem?
hot_gril
Part of the reason I moved out of the Bay Area was I didn't want to be around so many ultra techie people, or for my kids to grow up that way. We'd be happier and even do our jobs better if there were more of a "human touch," and I wish our company had SQLite's code of ethics.

But I'm a computer programmer, so even if I'm in a more balanced environment now, all I meant is I simply don't work with artists etc daily.

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